CPU aircooling roundup

[charlie]

ultra 90 is exceptional in the mid range section.

[barzi]

But in a techpowerup review, the blue orb II beats the ultra 90.
It beats a couple of midend HSF(on 120W as well).

Is the Blue orb II completly from copper? or only the base?
And is the Blue orb II better then the freezer 7 pro(for overclocking, e6600)?

Because the blue orb II isn't expensive here, and it delivers great cooling(if you believe the reviews).

[nQuirer]

First and foremost, on that roundup.
Real nice work there.
I'm sure your efforts are well appreciated.

Anyhow, I have a few suggestions that I think could make it even better than it already is.
Particularly in regards to the SI-120 and it's role in your roundup.
I was recently reading around to see if it was worth upgrading to the Ultra-120 from the SI-128.
And in doing so, naturally, I came across reviews of it and other coolers as well.
Amongst these, were the SI-128, the SI-120, and some even included the XP-120. (All three of which I own.)
Now maybe you and I are reading different reviews,
but putting the SI-120 in the same class as the XP-120 is a bit of a stretch.

I've tested each of these three sinks in four entirely different rigs.
And in each rig, I got the same thing that I got after reading and comparing reviews:
there is a relatively substantial performance difference between the SI-120 and the XP-120.
But more importantly, the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128, doesn't quite compare.
This is most likely due to the fact that the XP-120 was not only Thermalright's first 120mm fan heat sink,
it was the first 120mm fan CPU heat sink period.
So of course, there was much room for improvement.
Then it's successor was designed, and well... it was the SI-120, not the "XP-128."

Once again, I think your roundup is awesome and very helpful.
However, being that the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128 is less than that between the XP-120 and the SI-120,
I think your roundup can actually be a bit misleading.
Some may get the impression that the difference between the SI-120 and the XP-120 is negligible, when in fact, it isn't.
More negligible, would be the difference between the SI-120 and the SI-128.

And by the way, why did you change the "A" section?
"Other recommended coolers" makes it sound like a "C."
I mean, I could see how some of those coolers would fit there, but not all of them.
If I was looking to buy a heat sink and didn't know better,
I would stay the hell away from anything in a section called "Other recommended coolers."
And if my cooler ended up in that section, hell, I'd be a little pissed.
hehe...
I'm just messing with you.

Anyway thanks again for your hard work.
Definitely a worthy sticky.

[Okda]

But in a techpowerup review, the blue orb II beats the ultra 90.
It beats a couple of midend HSF(on 120W as well).

Is the Blue orb II completly from copper? or only the base?
And is the Blue orb II better then the freezer 7 pro(for overclocking, e6600)?

Because the blue orb II isn't expensive here, and it delivers great cooling(if you believe the reviews).

AFAIR they used a single core cpu in their review

[barzi]

ah i get it ..
but i saw a used CNPS9500 led for like 20 euros, that's the same price as the freezer 7 pro(in holland). Which is better of these?
I think the CNPS9500, but i don't want to set it always on full speed

[kcdrummer]

Here is a request to update sticky with a category or label in each category for hs/f assemblies that do not require mb removal. For instance, for the c2d you don't have to remove your mb with an arctic cooler 7 or a scythe infinity. I'm sure there are others but I'm still looking for them.

Just a thought as I know for many that is a consideration.

[barzi]

ah i get it ..
but i saw a used CNPS9500 led for like 20 euros, that's the same price as the freezer 7 pro(in holland). Which is better of these?
I think the CNPS9500, but i don't want to set it always on full speed

First of all, ^ is my first question.

2. Which is better, a scythe infinity or a big typhoon(non-vx), for oced conroe?

[Okda]

both are nearly the same if u properly installed both of them

i prefer typhoon cause it looks much better and the main thing that it also cools the area around the cpu like the pwm

[barzi]

both are nearly the same if u properly installed both of them

i prefer typhoon cause it looks much better and the main thing that it also cools the area around the cpu like the pwm

Ah ok. I thought scythe infinirty because it has more fins(and bigger), and it has 5 long heatpipes, instead of 6 short heatpipes @ BT.

But i doubt now between a scythe infinirty (37 + 9 euro shipping) or a tuniq tower 120 (45 + 9 euro shipping)?
Is the diffrence well if you see the price change(so 10 euro worth?).

The big typhoon is 34 euro + 8 euro shipping, but i heard it is difficult to install(that's the main reaseon for BT VX), so i don't like that very much.

The scythe infinity is very good at installing, it has those standard intel pins. The tuniq tower needs a backplate.

So which should i take?(e6600)

[Okda]

BT is not hard at all to install

all huge heatsinks are nearly the same when installing

u have to remove the mobo, install the back plate, install the heatsink till the end on the cpu then install the mobo back

and the VX is just an updated version with variable fan speed controller and a higher rated fan at higher noise levels

for me i will get the Bt for the plus of cooling the pwm around teh cpu sockets and its 733T look

check this thread to see how they perform
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20

[barzi]

BT is not hard at all to install

all huge heatsinks are nearly the same when installing

u have to remove the mobo, install the back plate, install the heatsink till the end on the cpu then install the mobo back

and the VX is just an updated version with variable fan speed controller and a higher rated fan at higher noise levels

for me i will get the Bt for the plus of cooling the pwm around teh cpu sockets and its 733T look

check this thread to see how they perform
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=20

I see that the big typhoon preforms equal to the tuniq tower!.
But i heard a lots of things about the BT but everyone says you have to lap it, and THEN it because a very good cooler.
So without lapping a scythe infnity is better?

[Okda]

this review above was made AFAIK before lapping the Thermaltake

u can look in the first post where the reviews posted a link to another forum with many details

he tested the BT using the foam trick and other things that si known to give better performance

[iadstudio]

The Scythe MINE should be in "A+ (louder fan)" category. It gives the same performance as the Ninja but was built for higher airflow.

I agree with the higher airflow but the fins are specifically designed NOT to be loud. it all depends on what fans you use but stock it's pretty quiet.

[barzi]

So scythe infinity/tuniq tower/TT BT, are like all the same? just which i prefer?

TT BT = cheapest, then infinity then tuniq tower.

Is it worth the 10 euros for tuniq tower against infinity/BT?

[Okda]

also the Bt will cool the area around the cpu socket like the pwm which si very helpful

[barzi]

also the Bt will cool the area around the cpu socket like the pwm which si very helpful

So the BT will be the best, and cheapest solution ?

[Okda]

IMHO yes it is, many many members here prefer the Tuniq

so there is not clear best heatsink, it mainly depends on ur own needs

[barzi]

IMHO yes it is, many many members here prefer the Tuniq

so there is not clear best heatsink, it mainly depends on ur own needs

isn't the best heatsink, just the one that gives the best temps?

[acrobuddy]

It may just be from person to person, but using my TTBT with a high CFM/pressure 38mm silverstone was 3-5C higher then using the tuniq with basically the same fan but only 25mm so not as high pressure, but it may also be because the tower does crossflow through my case. 120mm blows in from front, blows through tuniq, blows out 120mm on back. I have lapped both TTBT and the tuniq. I also use ceramique, as it seems to work best over other options, no gain with AS5 on my core sans-IHS.

But it may vary from person to person, situation to situation. But for me my tuniq has given me better performance over the TTBT.

[barzi]

It may just be from person to person, but using my TTBT with a high CFM/pressure 38mm silverstone was 3-5C higher then using the tuniq with basically the same fan but only 25mm so not as high pressure, but it may also be because the tower does crossflow through my case. 120mm blows in from front, blows through tuniq, blows out 120mm on back. I have lapped both TTBT and the tuniq. I also use ceramique, as it seems to work best over other options, no gain with AS5 on my core sans-IHS.

But it may vary from person to person, situation to situation. But for me my tuniq has given me better performance over the TTBT.

Ok..
I just doubt between the infinity and tuniq, and maybe the ninja, or is the infinity better then ninja?

[AzraelDarkangel]

Just a note to everyone; I just noticed that a section on my aircooling faq has been cut off and it won't let me add anymore. The equivilant of a page or two with some of my heatsink links and all of my VGA coolers and HDD coolers info is gone. There seems to be aprox. 6 page limit on the length of my faq. There are some watercooling faq's and such with 20+ pages so I don't know what's up at the moment.

[AzraelDarkangel]

Ok, seems to be letting me add stuff ok. Somehow a huge chunk of my stuff just got deleted...wierd...I'm redoing it over the next few days or so.

[Demo]

this review above was made AFAIK before lapping the Thermaltake

u can look in the first post where the reviews posted a link to another forum with many details

he tested the BT using the foam trick and other things that si known to give better performance

How much difference would lapping make, maybe 2~3c at most ?

whats the foam trick, all i see on that link is a single line post.

[Asazman]

i like the ultra 90, very effective for me

[Stx]

do you think the Tuniq Tower 120 will fit in the Antec PlusView II ??? (getting the Tuniq soon)

Check these pics pls:
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...II/antec21.jpg
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...II/antec22.jpg
http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revie...antec19_sm.jpg

Also did you guys use the Tuniq TX1 Thermal Grease? I got some AS5 as well for- e6400, which one would be better?

thanks