ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[ninrocket]

Where di u get 1605?!??!

iLL

typo....sorry

I fixed it.

[cadaveca]

I flashed to 1506 and now noticed something......

I have 4GBs of ram which the system sees but where it states "system memory", it looks like this:

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1152MB
Available: 2944MB

What causes this? What is "appropriating" 1152MBs of memory?

Motherboard resources get this memory. This is why there is the addition on the switch for 64-bit support, allowing the OS to get access to full ram, or have ram used properly when XP/2000 is installed. such a waste of manpower, if you ask me.

[Burner27]

Motherboard resources get this memory. This is why there is the addition on the switch for 64-bit support, allowing the OS to get access to full ram, or have ram used properly when XP/2000 is installed. such a waste of manpower, if you ask me.

So even though i am using a 32bit OS (WinXP Pro) should I switch that setting to 64-bit support?

[JokerCPoC]

So even though i am using a 32bit OS (WinXP Pro) should I switch that setting to 64-bit support?

Sorry, But as MS has said XP Pro will only address 4Gb, Minus drivers, Windows, Bios, etc. If You want 64bit support get Windows XP x64, It can be bought for about $74 or so, Do so only If Your cpu and motherboard support AMD64 or EM64T.

By limiting the address space to 4 GB, devices with 32-bit DMA bus master capability will not see a transaction with an address above the 4 GB barrier.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx

[rpr]

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?

[Burner27]

Sorry, But as MS has said XP Pro will only address 4Gb, Minus drivers, Windows, Bios, etc. If You want 64bit support get Windows XP x64, It can be bought for about $74 or so, Do so only If Your cpu and motherboard support AMD64 or EM64T.

By limiting the address space to 4 GB, devices with 32-bit DMA bus master capability will not see a transaction with an address above the 4 GB barrier.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx

I know that. My question is purely related to the bios. If I enable 64-bit support in the bios will the "appropriated memory" go back to 0?

[JokerCPoC]

I know that. My question is purely related to the bios. If I enable 64-bit support in the bios will the "appropriated memory" go back to 0?

NO. You would still need a 64bit OS to see any possible effect, So under XP Pro x32 It's useless.

[MacClipper]

I flashed to 1506 and now noticed something......

I have 4GBs of ram which the system sees but where it states "system memory", it looks like this:

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1152MB
Available: 2944MB

What causes this? What is "appropriating" 1152MBs of memory?

On 1506 with a AIW X1900, mine says

Size: 4096MB
Appropriated: 896MB
Available: 3200MB

Nice!

PS: Gave up on my el cheapo dual 7300GTs due to my earlier missing RAM issue.

[Thasp]

My RAM is spec'd @ 2.2v and the board posted fine. You might want to read the reviews on that RAM. Maybe a lot of it is user error, but there seem to be a lot of unhappy owners with Conroe systems.

I have searched the forum and I found one thread, the one with the g.skill tech posting settings.

Are you sure it's the right ram you're referring to? What would you recommend in that price range, then?

[Thasp]

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?

I see no system specs.. how can I help?

For all I know you're using an evercool vc-re for a CPU heatsink.

[Burner27]

NO. You would still need a 64bit OS to see any possible effect, So under XP Pro x32 It's useless.

But this didn't happen under Bios 1101 so your answer is still not directed towards my question.

I understand I need a 64bit OS to see all the ram--that's not the question. If the previous bios I was using DID NOT appropriate any memory, and the OS I am using now "sees" 3GB of ram BEFORE I flashed to 1506 without appropriating 1152MBs of ram---how can I get that appropriated ram back?

This is a BIOS/Motherboard question--not and OS question.

[NO1B4ME]

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!

Please note:
NEW FINAL Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.6.2.0.2002 dated Oct 13, 2006 available

See link:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

Thanks I just upgraded my system with the 8/1/2006 ones. I will try these new ones out for the raid.

[nicepun]

Question for the experts:

My E6600 does 3.2Ghz with ease with all voltages left at stock "Auto" (I just disabled Hyperthreading 3), with idle temps at 42C and load temps at 54C.

Despite its impressive overclockability to 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I can't run stable at 3.6 Ghz even with the CPU VCore cranked up to 1.525V and the VMCH cranked up to 1.65V. Its actually a bit more stable when I leave the VMCH on Auto, although not much. Temps at these voltages increase to 54C at idle and 70C at load.

I can't believe there is no more headroom in this CPU over what it can do with stock voltages! Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?

Well you need to post more info (rig specs) and bios settings.

[NghtShd]

I have searched the forum and I found one thread, the one with the g.skill tech posting settings.

Are you sure it's the right ram you're referring to? What would you recommend in that price range, then?

I looked at the RAM at newegg by clicking the link you provided then I checked the reviews there. Granted you have to take those reviews with a grain of salt (a lot of people just don't know what they're doing) and if you look at most lower priced RAM which has a good number of reviews there you'll see a lot of negatives, but I would at least do some shopping.

I don't really have anything to go on regarding recommendations other than my own experience. I'm using Ballistix BL2KIT12864AA804, which I got on sale for $250 before a $40 rebate. (Newegg's price is $340, but ZipZoomFly has it for $270.)

[Psitech]

1602

http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb...tachmentid=126

[lockeh]

why is there new bios's flying out left right n center

what are they fixing?

is the stupid after 360fsb SPD bug fixed yet?

is the cold boot problems fixed yet?

has there been anymore overclocking with these new releases?

[lawrywild]

1602

http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb...tachmentid=126

Thanks, Flashed, I see no changes in the bios so far...

[JokerCPoC]

But this didn't happen under Bios 1101 so your answer is still not directed towards my question.

I understand I need a 64bit OS to see all the ram--that's not the question. If the previous bios I was using DID NOT appropriate any memory, and the OS I am using now "sees" 3GB of ram BEFORE I flashed to 1506 without appropriating 1152MBs of ram---how can I get that appropriated ram back?

This is a BIOS/Motherboard question--not and OS question.

Either You go back to that Bios version or wait until the 3Gb of ram comes back in a New bios version, Otherwise there is nothing You can do as some or all of that ram that is missing is taken up by Your Bios, the OS, It's drivers, programs, etc. It has to go someplace within the 4Gb address space otherwise It wouldn't be a 32bit OS.

To think otherwise is a bit naive. As It was the same with DOS years ago when people asked if DOS can address 1Mb How come I don't see It all? It has to go someplace.

The Bios and the OS has everything to do with How much ram You have that can be seen by the Bios/motherboard as outlined above, Since You may have 4Gb installed, But the Bios and then Windows is in charge of what goes where and since there may be some overlap, Guess what doesn't show up? Yep the ram that is missiing.

[rpr]

I see no system specs.. how can I help?

For all I know you're using an evercool vc-re for a CPU heatsink.

I AM using an Evercool VC-RE as my CPU heatsink. It's all I had...what's wrong with that?

Just kidding. System is as follows:

E6600 w/ Zalman 7700Cu
2GB OCZ PC 6400 Platinum Rev 2
P5W-DH Deluxe (first shipping revision)
ATI X1900XT

Settings are as follows:

356x9 (3.2 Ghz) rock solid Orthos stable with all stock BIOS settings (incl all "Auto" voltages & memory left at SPD) except for Disabled HyperPath 3. Running RAM at 890Mhz SPD timings. Idle temps are 42C and load temps are 54C.

400x9 (3.6 Ghz) best I can do is run Orthos for 80 seconds. Running RAM at rated speed of 800Mhz at SPD timings. Tried all combinations of CPU VCore (up to 1.525V) and VMCH (up to 1.65V). At 1.525 VCore and 1.65 VMCH my idle temps are 54C and load temps are 71C.

I haven't played with other BIOS settings other than disabling HyperPath 3 and bumping up VCore and VMCH. Actually seems a bit more stable with VMCH on "Auto". What am I missing???

With my 2.4 Ghz E6600 being able to do 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I really don't feel the extra heat and stress on the system associated with ratcheting up voltages, etc. is worth it unless I can eek out at least another 400Mhz out of it (i.e.: to ~3.6 Ghz).

Any suggestions? What do I need to focus on other than VCore and VMCH???

[brock01]

i have the exact same system rpr except diff hsf, CNPS9500led is what i got
and i found out that my ram SUCKS, i think
sending it back to newegg tom
try memtest and see if you get some errors

[Burner27]

Either You go back to that Bios version or wait until the 3Gb of ram comes back in a New bios version, Otherwise there is nothing You can do as some or all of that ram that is missing is taken up by Your Bios, the OS, It's drivers, programs, etc. It has to go someplace within the 4Gb address space otherwise It wouldn't be a 32bit OS.

To think otherwise is a bit naive. As It was the same with DOS years ago when people asked if DOS can address 1Mb How come I don't see It all? It has to go someplace.

The Bios and the OS has everything to do with How much ram You have that can be seen by the Bios/motherboard as outlined above, Since You may have 4Gb installed, But the Bios and then Windows is in charge of what goes where and since there may be some overlap, Guess what doesn't show up? Yep the ram that is missiing.

I am in the BIOS and the ram is posting as 4096MB TOTAL. But then what is available IN THE BIOS shows up as 2944MB after "appropriating" 1152MB. You're saying the BIOS now, after a BIOS upgrade needs 1GB of ram? For what purpose? It didn't need it in the past. Please stop telling me it is DRIVERS, my OS and programs. The OS isn't even in the equation here.

I ask why the BIOS is usurping 1152MB when before in was taking 0.

************After a bit of tinkering I found out how to stop taking so much ram. Under the Chipset features, there is a setting for "memory remapping" 32 Bit disable/64bit enable. If I switch it to enable I get all 4096MB available even though WinXP sees 3GB (i know why I do not need an explaination)

[syne_24]

I AM using an Evercool VC-RE as my CPU heatsink. It's all I had...what's wrong with that?

Just kidding. System is as follows:

E6600 w/ Zalman 7700Cu
2GB OCZ PC 6400 Platinum Rev 2
P5W-DH Deluxe (first shipping revision)
ATI X1900XT

Settings are as follows:

356x9 (3.2 Ghz) rock solid Orthos stable with all stock BIOS settings (incl all "Auto" voltages & memory left at SPD) except for Disabled HyperPath 3. Running RAM at 890Mhz SPD timings. Idle temps are 42C and load temps are 54C.

400x9 (3.6 Ghz) best I can do is run Orthos for 80 seconds. Running RAM at rated speed of 800Mhz at SPD timings. Tried all combinations of CPU VCore (up to 1.525V) and VMCH (up to 1.65V). At 1.525 VCore and 1.65 VMCH my idle temps are 54C and load temps are 71C.

I haven't played with other BIOS settings other than disabling HyperPath 3 and bumping up VCore and VMCH. Actually seems a bit more stable with VMCH on "Auto". What am I missing???

With my 2.4 Ghz E6600 being able to do 3.2 Ghz at stock settings, I really don't feel the extra heat and stress on the system associated with ratcheting up voltages, etc. is worth it unless I can eek out at least another 400Mhz out of it (i.e.: to ~3.6 Ghz).

Any suggestions? What do I need to focus on other than VCore and VMCH???

guys not all E6600 can run stable less than 1.5v My week 24 needed 1.55v in the bios to be stable with orthos. I went through 10 A batch E6600's and 2 B batch, all vcore were different for 3.6 stability. Raise the vcore is needed to tell what's holding you back. Do not be afraid to raise the vcore. I would go up to 1.6v for air just to rule out any possibility besides the CPU that is causing the unstability.

[rpr]

guys not all E6600 can run stable less than 1.5v My week 24 needed 1.55v in the bios to be stable with orthos. I went through 10 A batch E6600's and 2 B batch, all vcore were different for 3.6 stability. Raise the vcore is needed to tell what's holding you back. Do not be afraid to raise the vcore. I would go up to 1.6v for air just to rule out any possibility besides the CPU that is causing the unstability.

With load temps of 71C at 1.525???

[syne_24]

ok if your not comfortable with the temps then maybe it's about time to rethink on a new cooler? If you're not going to isolate the problem how do you know what's holding you back? 90% of the time if your ram setting, vdimm, vmch and everything else is set right; it's the vcore that's needed to get stable. You tell me how do you know if you aint going to try..

This is my setting @ 3.6 stable:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V *depend on memory
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.375V *depend on cpu
FSB Termination: AUTO or 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *depend on board, might need 1.75v for memory @ 1000mhz
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled

[JokerCPoC]

I am in the BIOS and the ram is posting as 4096MB TOTAL. But then what is available IN THE BIOS shows up as 2944MB after "appropriating" 1152MB. You're saying the BIOS now, after a BIOS upgrade needs 1GB of ram? For what purpose? It didn't need it in the past. Please stop telling me it is DRIVERS, my OS and programs. The OS isn't even in the equation here.

I ask why the BIOS is usurping 1152MB when before in was taking 0.

************After a bit of tinkering I found out how to stop taking so much ram. Under the Chipset features, there is a setting for "memory remapping" 32 Bit disable/64bit enable. If I switch it to enable I get all 4096MB available even though WinXP sees 3GB (i know why I do not need an explaination)

My point is that the Bios leaves a certain amount of space for those devices for XP x32, However if It sees a 64 bit NT loader program then that reserved space isn't needed by Windows XP x64, as x64 can load them above ones ram.

Well I'm glad You have Your 3Gb of ram.