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    Quad Core Barcelona Details Revealed

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    memory support for DDRII, DDRIII, FB DIMMS
    shadow paging
    256 terabyte max memory support
    dual independent memory controllers
    2mb L3 cache with possible future size expansion
    128 bit execution path
    Updated K8L Pic:

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    kind of looks like K8L
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step

    kind of looks like K8L
    It looks like K8l or it is k8L
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    Quote Originally Posted by LOE
    It looks like 4 rev H cores with L3 cache

    I guess this rev of K8L won't use ZRam cause the L3 cache looks as big as the 4x512 L2 cache
    It was supposed to have like 5 times the denisty of normal cache, so with this size it should be like.. 10MB

    dual INDEPENDENT MCs? does this mean 2 64bit interfaces or 2x dual 64 bit interfaces

    are we going to see quad channel memory with K8L?

    ZRam will probably come later once the necessity to upgrade the L3 comes along, remember these quad cores are modular so changing this cache to ZRam is as easy as you can say Zeee


    Independent memory controllers could only mean one thing, 2 128bit MC which will probably allow for dual channel memory with 2 DIMMs and quad channel memory with 4 DIMMs. Combine that with HT3.0 and you have one sick system bandwidth
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    so does the dual MC mean you need at least 2 sticks of RAM?

    not that its either good or bad, but just a thought i had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madman2233
    so does the dual MC mean you need at least 2 sticks of RAM?

    not that its either good or bad, but just a thought i had.

    I don't see why it cannot operate under single channel single MC. Except the fact that it would seriously bottleneck the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOE
    are u sure, it seems fine to me

    Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitriman
    Cumon wake up guys just look at the picture this obviously is a Quad core since its well known that the BARCELONA core is quad and AMD doesn't even have a single sample of Octal core CPU, its well documented in their roadmap that by the time octal cores are out they will have a completely new cpu core (2008/2009).
    the article and pictures are about quad cores, not 8, not 16.

    I'm pretty sure Perkam was either being ironic somehow or just wasn't paying much attention to the picture+article
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    It's a quad core(4 cores on a die)...

    Edit: @Perkam

    And non native QC is 4x4,not RevG MCM

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    from: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4135

    so there are all the info details, what advantages do some of these improvements bring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by el rolio


    from: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4135

    so there are all the info details, what advantages do some of these improvements bring?
    Good god !!! You have the choice of using two cores instead of all 4 !! Nice !!

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    IMO that sounds better than Yorkfields 12MB L2 cache with 2 cores sharing 6MB. Given that however, 12MB of L2 will put it ahead of K8L for virtualisation

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    Good god !!! You have the choice of using two cores instead of all 4 !! Nice !!

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    I'd rather see it as a way to OC each core to it's max

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    K8L is going to do some serious damage
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    looks like the Quad Core K8L.

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    i like the separate power planes on cpu and mem controller bit. that sounds interesting and a GREAT way to save power all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el rolio
    i like the separate power planes on cpu and mem controller bit. that sounds interesting and a GREAT way to save power all the time.
    Very true, but the seperate PLL's for each core and the memory controller means EVERY core can be clocked to its max and then you can max out your Memory overclock, doing max damage
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    Man I can't wait. Although I hear that gaming isn't really much better on quad core. But I'm betting that will change as it becomes more main stream, just as dual core has. Now just to hit the lottery.
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    wow.. cant wait to see this.. any ES
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    Quote Originally Posted by erwinz
    wow.. cant wait to see this.. any ES
    yes but the NDA includes ritualized suicide.
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    when is hte NDA s'posed to be up?
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    with 2 memory conrollers, all that cache and 4 cores these sound like they are gonna be hell to oc'
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    Ya it will be interesting seeing the previews . I am thinking the 12mb shared cache of yorksfield will be way faster. Both will be available 3rd qt 07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtle 1
    Ya it will be interesting seeing the previews . I am thinking the 12mb shared cache of yorksfield will be way faster. Both will be available 3rd qt 07.
    say that when K8L with DDR3 comes out.
    Then it'll be like having 8GB of L3
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