DS3 Big Difference With F5e BIOS

[SnakeEyes]

Well since flashing to the F5e BIOS I have been able to get it up to 460 FSB!
I couldn't get it past 300 FSB before. I was worried about my purchase but now I'm glad I got the DS3!!!
This is all on some cheap ram I picked up to get the motherboard to POST because my OCZ ram wouldn't. But I had to RMA the OCZ as it wouldnt boot up without at least 2.2v and it was only rated for 1.9v
Just wondering what RAM to get now?

[Lestat]

wow i definately dont think ive seen anyone make such a huge leap.
way to go and keep it up gigabyte.

as for ram

i would advice against the D9 based ram like the gskill HZ 6400.
the DS3 has issues running D9 ram above 950 mhz.
this includes the teamgroup and gskill and corsair lines of ram.
you can get those, but it would be a waste as you cant run them higher than 1:1 but god since they can EASILY handle 1:1 applications.
all good ram but the DS3 is picky to say the least.
maybe look into the ocz 6400 XTC gold. that has been able to go over 1000+ with loose timings.

[SnakeEyes]

Thanks lestat. I just purchased the 2 Gigs of the OCZ XTC Gold Ram. Hope it clocks good.

I got my FSB up to 470 right now, I know 500 wont boot so it will be inbetween there somewhere.

[vintage_guitar]

advise against all mushkin redline/extreme performance series/ds3 combos as those are micron d9 as well. (except the old fatbody 2005 versions of the 2gb pc2-6400) yeah man i bet you CAN hit 500fsb if you crank the ram volts a little more!! show us some 500 screenies!!

[Lestat]

i know for me atleast i have maxed out my ds3 wth 2.4v and it still wont work
ive talked ot ekenofstephens and a few of the other guys and they too had the same issue withthe D9's. no amount of voltage or tweaking let it go beyond 950mhz .
wierd stuff indeed.

[BottomsUp]

I'm skeptical...most people say no differences are seen with the new bios (like me) while others once in a while claim huge FSB increases. I'm not knocking the OP, but i'm inclinded to believe something else changes and this increase isn't due to the bios.

[SnakeEyes]

No changes were made to my system, its been running for a couple of days with cheap stick of ram at 300 fsb. I flashed the new bios last night and got up to 470, I tried with this ram and some OCZ gold I had and they wouldn't budge past 300. Havent touched anything else.

Well I tried to get to 500, seems like nothing would work, I'm going to wait untill my new ram gets here to try some more, but I'm happy with 470!

[menlatin]

The Ds3 seems to really like the patriot 667 llk. Or atleast it likes mine.

[Lestat]

interesting menlatin.

ill have to look into it.

1000mhz @ 2.1v i bet if you put a meter on the mobo it would show about 2.15v my board overvolts the vdimm quite a bit.


menlatin is this the ram your talking about?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220095

[Summer67]

My E6400 is running great with the Patriot DDR2 800 ram running at 4 4 4 12. This is the second build i've used with the patriot ram, and it seems to overclock well. Plus it booted up fine with the DS3 even though it wants 2.1

[Pyr0]

@ Lestat, the DS3 can't have issues with ALL Micron D9.
My Kingston, using Micron D9 GKX chips has no problems runing over 1000MHz in the Gigabyte board

[Lestat]

pyro.. no sh|t huh ?
hhmm interesting thats the first time i THINK i have seen someone with D9 make it work over 950....
hhmmmmmmm

how you have the bios setup to go over 950 ?
timings (all of them cuz i have a sneaky feeling there is only 1 or 2 timings in the bios that is stopping it. cuz it acts exactly like TCCD when you have 1 or two timings wrong.)
volts,,, etc etc.

since the kingston stuff is newer then the teamgroup or gskill those brands of D9 may infact be working ok... hhmmm.. (im picturing having you dump the SPD for me and i can flash the spd dump onto my ram lol )

[Pyr0]

Hi Lestat,
yeah, no probs over 1000mhz here

i haven't got the DS3 setup at the moment, but i managed to find this screenie:

ignore the times please, it's only 1GB of mem (maybe that's why i can get over 1000mhz) and i don't use all the little tricks like copying files and ramdrives when i run PI, i just run it with affinity set

i just set the PCI-E to 100, and the MCH and FSB were set to default volts
only the memory primary timings were set: 5-5-5-15 all others were on auto

so far i haven't tried overclocking the memory (but i will ), and have just been running them at stock timings of 5-5-5-15.
they boot with no problems at all even after a BIOS reset and at stock CPU speeds work fine on the 1066 mem divider
dunno if any of that's useful

[edit] this is the first time i've tried to use thaiphoon burner before...
i tried to dump my SPD to a file incase you wanted to try it
http://rapidshare.de/files/31653541/...erX_PC8500.rar
if it didn't work, then i'll have to reinstall windows or something, the trial version had 0 days left on it the first time i opened it and refuses to work now

[dinos22]

pyro.. no sh|t huh ?
hhmm interesting thats the first time i THINK i have seen someone with D9 make it work over 950....
hhmmmmmmm

how you have the bios setup to go over 950 ?
timings (all of them cuz i have a sneaky feeling there is only 1 or 2 timings in the bios that is stopping it. cuz it acts exactly like TCCD when you have 1 or two timings wrong.)
volts,,, etc etc.

since the kingston stuff is newer then the teamgroup or gskill those brands of D9 may infact be working ok... hhmmm.. (im picturing having you dump the SPD for me and i can flash the spd dump onto my ram lol )

you have really short memory

[vintage_guitar]

it's d9gmh that has issues, not d9gkx heh.

[Lestat]

you have really short memory

no dinos cuz you had the same problem. man dont tell me i got a short memory cuz you and me talked about that 950mhz bullcrap.

[SnakeEyes]

Well got my new OCZ gold mem in http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227124
Well the results suck so far!!!
I can't get anything stable over 350 fsb! That's from 470!!!
I'm real dissapointed so far. I've tried so many different settings but 350 is it. Yeah I tried 401 also. It will boot over 350 but not stable at all.
Any suggestions???

[Phosphate]

pyro.. no sh|t huh ?
hhmm interesting thats the first time i THINK i have seen someone with D9 make it work over 950....
hhmmmmmmm

Well those D9GKX Ics are supposed to clock higher than the D9GMHs apparently so that might be part of it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=114450

[The_Hardstylez]

Bios F3 is still the best bios for my DS3 board

[bingo13]

F6A is still the best overall bios I have used on the DS3.

[cliffy]

Where you get F6A from????

[SnakeEyes]

Yeah please tell us?

[HeadShotWI]

F6A is still the best overall bios I have used on the DS3.

DL location please?

[theteamaqua]

whats the link for F5e bios?

[cliffy]

I'm skeptical...most people say no differences are seen with the new bios (like me) while others once in a while claim huge FSB increases. I'm not knocking the OP, but i'm inclinded to believe something else changes and this increase isn't due to the bios.

I originally thought it was all down to bios but now i am not so sure, i think it might be temp related, on my machine anyway. I think i must of tried every bios going for my DS3 then one night i was bored and powered on my machine with the side panel off on a cold night and straight up to 477 (27Mhz increase) i chabged nothing in bios bar the FSB. Unjet once the machine has warmed up cant get past 450 again