Operation Shutdown

[[XC] riptide]

The Climate apps are very worthwhile IMO.
Nice to see you over here..

i think he meant was that by shutting down his boxes he was saving the enviroment.!

[Hymay]

My last question concerning it is whats the stance on the 5.5.0 opti clients for WCG BOINC, do the top teams use it?

I'll most likely give WCG a go once I break into the top 100 in riesel Sieve and when we have succesfully held onto 1st in D2OL.

It doesn't seem to matter there.. my 5.5 p3 800 gets about as much as a friend's p3 866 running wcg client instead of boinc. Funny thing is... its getting about 2x the points it got in rosetta. it was about 200 rac for rosy... gotten over 400 per result in wcg so far. Each result is running about 24 hrs.. so double the 5.5 optimized credits.

[meshmesh]

My last question concerning it is whats the stance on the 5.5.0 opti clients for WCG BOINC, do the top teams use it?

I'll most likely give WCG a go once I break into the top 100 in riesel Sieve and when we have succesfully held onto 1st in D2OL.

WGN does not use Boinc benchmark at all. So they do not care. The software runs it's own internal benchmarking system. And quite a complicated one it seams. More info here

[[XC] Adywebb]

WGN does not use Boinc benchmark at all. So they do not care. The software runs it's own internal benchmarking system. And quite a complicated one it seams. More info here

That benchmarking system applies only to the WCG UD Agent.

Boinc uses normal benchmarking - the higher the benchmark (Whetstone/Dhrystone), the more credit claimed - however because WCG runs a quorum system, actual credit granted is the middle claim of 3 results, the credits are then multiplied by 7 to give WCG points.

[[XC]melymel]

That benchmarking system applies only to the WCG UD Agent.

Boinc uses normal benchmarking - the higher the benchmark (Whetstone/Dhrystone), the more credit claimed - however because WCG runs a quorum system, actual credit granted is the middle claim of 3 results, the credits are then multiplied by 7 to give WCG points.

Damn it I hate quorums, that just ruined the project for me . Are there any plans for them to change the credit system or is no one bothered by it as is?

P.S. cheers for answering these questions for me.

[[XC] Adywebb]

Damn it I hate quorums, that just ruined the project for me . Are there any plans for them to change the credit system or is no one bothered by it as is?

P.S. cheers for answering these questions for me.

No problem

The quorum system is actually there to check the validity of the results, if one of the 3 doesn't come up with the same as the other 2, or fails to be returned etc (there is a 7 day deadline) - then another is sent out to cross-check.

This was only reduced to 3 from 4 relatively recently - reducing it to 2 is being looked into at the moment - whether it will ever be reduced to one like Rosetta, I wouldn't like to guess.

[meshmesh]

Damn it I hate quorums, that just ruined the project for me . Are there any plans for them to change the credit system or is no one bothered by it as is?

P.S. cheers for answering these questions for me.

But you see, not all projects are insensitive to errors like R@H. Some do need validation and a single error will be trouble (SIMAP is a good example). I think they do 4 at the moment. Errors there would deadly.

[Haltech]

Haltech,

No offense , i'm on your side.
But you're still running R@H? 553 points yesterday , today 579 points.
I don't get it .

I cant stop that one... Laptop somewhere in Iraq

[Haltech]

Has your heart restarted yet from seeing some of us agree with you?
I've got the same damned temperament as you do. I don't like being kicked in the teeth and then being told to like it.
Our differences are in how we each verbalize our same feeling.
You come out and hit it with a 10 pound sledgehammer and I'm a little bit milder than that in what I write but we are on the same page here and the thoughts that run through both our minds on this have the same 4 letter words in them. I just don't write them.
My priorities and in order:
1) What is best for the team as a whole even if it's not whats best for me personally.
2)Solve this issue with Dr.Baker in any way I can.
3)Let the team know how I feel.
4) While this is being settled to go and help some of the other teams in worthwhile DC apps whether it's a day,week, or forever.
That part is all up to Dr. Baker.

Not a problem. I just wanted to be sure you knew what i was thinking

[[XC] 4X4N]

Is there a XS team for WCG? Thinking about running it and just curious if anyone has set up a team.

EDIT: Found it. Just started WCG and joined up. Looks like now there are only two of us currently running. Looks like we need some

[BLyarx]

WF looks like I'll be joining you soon.

But why D2OL?

DDTUNG

Putting ddtung's rosetta farm on idle. Is a team effort in itself.

[[XC] serlv]

I have two machines doing QMC, one with the R_Dogs, one under DCManiak.
I also have one machine running Rosey w a seven day queue and the Cat 5 cable to it laying on the floor. That's it.
Damn near a total shutdown.

The quiet around here is very disconcerting, after years of fans running 24/7.

[Movieman]

I have two machines doing QMC, one with the R_Dogs, one under DCManiak.
I also have one machine running Rosey w a seven day queue and the Cat 5 cable to it laying on the floor. That's it.
Damn near a total shutdown.

The quiet around here is very disconcerting, after years of fans running 24/7.

You deserve a short rest my friend and knowing what it cost to run all those machines in the middle of a dessert I imagine your wallet will appreciate the quiet also. Don't worry, we won't let you rest for too long!

[WindForce]

... after years of fans running 24/7.

Well, maybe it's time to go watercooling?

On a sidenote, Scott, you (DC)maniak, i saw you did 0 in R@H in the last free-dc update!@#!@ I'm running after forgotten rigs all day long and i still get 100-200 every update :-(

[[XC] serlv]

Howzat? Ya put em under a canopy in the yard and turn the sprinkler on?




The other thing; well they should all be zero henceforth, til this is ( if it ever is ) resolved.

Friggin sad the way they cAnnot seem to communicate...

[A novice]

Hi everyone I haven't had time to read everything that's going on.
So if my old friend DCManiak thinks we should leave Rosetta I will do the same. I am away for the next ten days but will be taking my laptop with me I will try and get on the Internet to see what is going on. The wife is shouting at me got to go see you
Rob

[WindForce]

The wife is shouting at me ...

Welcome to the club

[[cTx]Philosophy]

ok im with u guys rosey goes off today wcg comes online..
My father has been riddled with diferent flavors of cancer for as long as I can remember, surgeries, chemotherapy, radiation has kept the old timer kicking, so I feel I owe it to atleast him and probably a few million ppl around the world to focus my attention there..

I started it before but was having a problem with work and having it setup in my siggy.. Any help with WCG would be awesome..

[itznfb]

once my rosetta WU's are completed i'll be moving all power to wcg/qmc

[[XC] serlv]

Hi everyone I haven't had time to read everything that's going on.
So if my old friend DCManiak thinks we should leave Rosetta I will do the same.

Hi, Rob. I never really wanted to leave Rosetta. I loved the science and I used to like the communication with the project leaders. But a lot has transpired. I am doing it with mixed feelings but want to support the team and my fellow crunchers. I sure hope we figger out what feck we're doing. I would hate for this crunching force to disintegrate into 20 different factions.
We were unified and driven, I'd like to see that again. Personally, my life has been touched in a most deep way by cancer; it was what caused me to start crunching about 5 years ago. I sure as hell hope that our main project is involved in medicine. That is what drives me ( and a minor competitive streak ).

I hope you enjoy your trip, Rob!

Scott

PS
I just flushed about 170 finished Rosey WUs when I detached from Rosey, on this machine. Talk about ambivalence.

[[cTx]Philosophy]

Cancer is my driving force also thats why I chose WCG..
Plus I have a bro in law dying from aids so id also like to feel im in some way contributing to the demise of future deaths from this disease as well.

[itznfb]

i think a lot of people here have some sort of desire to help with the fight against cancer, which is probably why we are so heavily migrating from rosetta to WCG.

[[XC] Fifty]

Sorry have been just swamped with work. Got my last system pulled last night and moved over to WCG.

And here I was hoping to catch you guys Well I did break 20k..