BTX on a Silverstone TJ07?

[Aldy402]

Im looking to buy a Silverstone Tj07 but my question is can i just remove the the motherboard tray and throw it back in the opposite side with a inverted design ? so when your facing the case the mobo plate is on the left side instead? similar to the v1000 series from lian li?

and if you guys have any pics? please post thankss in advance

[clokker]

Yes, it can be done.

It's not quite as straightforward as it appears upon a casual inspection but not terribly difficult either.
The backplane requires no modification at all.
The roof fans will not fit and the mesh grill/fan holder requires trimming as well.
The runners for the mobo tray can be unscrewed/unriveted (the only rivets in the whole case, as a matter of fact) and swapped (the taller runner will go on the bottom when you flip the board and it needs to be spaced up approximately 3/16").

If you remove the motherboard tray and the roof fans it's easy to see what you'll need to do/change to perform the conversion.
All in all I spent maybe two hours swapping over.

[Aldy402]

Yes, it can be done.

It's not quite as straightforward as it appears upon a casual inspection but not terribly difficult either.
The backplane requires no modification at all.
The roof fans will not fit and the mesh grill/fan holder requires trimming as well.
The runners for the mobo tray can be unscrewed/unriveted (the only rivets in the whole case, as a matter of fact) and swapped (the taller runner will go on the bottom when you flip the board and it needs to be spaced up approximately 3/16").

If you remove the motherboard tray and the roof fans it's easy to see what you'll need to do/change to perform the conversion.
All in all I spent maybe two hours swapping over.

clocker, thank you so much. I've pretty much searched all over for this answer until now. THe reason I want this is because the way my room is setup I would rather have the case on the left side and the case window facing me. Im also getting the tj07 because of the easy bottom rad placement

thanks again

[Shift]

Yes, it can be done.

It's not quite as straightforward as it appears upon a casual inspection but not terribly difficult either.
The backplane requires no modification at all.
The roof fans will not fit and the mesh grill/fan holder requires trimming as well.
The runners for the mobo tray can be unscrewed/unriveted (the only rivets in the whole case, as a matter of fact) and swapped (the taller runner will go on the bottom when you flip the board and it needs to be spaced up approximately 3/16").

If you remove the motherboard tray and the roof fans it's easy to see what you'll need to do/change to perform the conversion.
All in all I spent maybe two hours swapping over.

Wow that is crazy! Never knew that was possible!

[noktekniq]

Yes, it can be done.

It's not quite as straightforward as it appears upon a casual inspection but not terribly difficult either.
The backplane requires no modification at all.
The roof fans will not fit and the mesh grill/fan holder requires trimming as well.
The runners for the mobo tray can be unscrewed/unriveted (the only rivets in the whole case, as a matter of fact) and swapped (the taller runner will go on the bottom when you flip the board and it needs to be spaced up approximately 3/16").

If you remove the motherboard tray and the roof fans it's easy to see what you'll need to do/change to perform the conversion.
All in all I spent maybe two hours swapping over.

can you please go into detail? i see it's easy to remove the TALL MOBO TRACK that is on the top because i can simply unscrew. but how about the shorter track that is on the bottom? how do i remove that? i dont see a place where i can remove that track to put on the other side for BTX conversion

[clokker]

The short track is rivetted to the subfloor and can be removed just as you would any rivet...with a drill.
I didn't reuse the short rail after the board flip as it didn't seem necessary.
Unsrew the tall rail from the roof and just flip the mobo around- you might find you need no runners at all...

[noktekniq]

The short track is rivetted to the subfloor and can be removed just as you would any rivet...with a drill.
I didn't reuse the short rail after the board flip as it didn't seem necessary.
Unsrew the tall rail from the roof and just flip the mobo around- you might find you need no runners at all...

as long as it holds the motherboard in place without a problem then i won't bother with the short one

[anodynejd]

What did you use to paint your inside of case black? I did that with one of my cases before but it cracked alot and I didn't like it after a bit.

[clokker]

Hammerite "Hammertone" Black.
It comes in rattle cans as well, that's what I used.
A durable finish, often seen on heavy machinery (mills, lathes, etc,) and toolboxes.

[Aldy402]

hey clokker, would there be enough room for a PA120.3 on the bottom + 1 of those stock hard drive racks? Or do I just have to bring my HDs up to the 5.25 racks?

If not, ill probably just grab the pa120.2
let me know

thanks

[anodynejd]

hey clokker, would there be enough room for a PA120.3 on the bottom + 1 of those stock hard drive racks? Or do I just have to bring my HDs up to the 5.25 racks?

If not, ill probably just grab the pa120.2
let me know

thanks

Nope if you want 1 hard drive rack you are limited to "only" a dual 120 setup. I believe if you took all of them out you could fit a 120.3 underthere though. That would be killer.

[anodynejd]

clokker do you have any pictures of what trimming needs to be done to the fan cage on the top?

[clokker]

Nope if you want 1 hard drive rack you are limited to "only" a dual 120 setup. I believe if you took all of them out you could fit a 120.3 underthere though. That would be killer.

A 120.3 will only fit if both HDD racks are removed (which is what I did).

clokker do you have any pictures of what trimming needs to be done to the fan cage on the top?

Basically, everything below the flange that screws to the roof must go.
Depending on how you populate your PCI slots you may be able to save the front fan mount but the rear will need to be cut away to clear the triangular support bracket between the tray and the backplane.
Because I have a card in the (now) top slot I just removed the whole fan mount area.

[Aldy402]

so with a pa120.2 , can i fit 1 hard drive rack?

[clokker]

I would think so.
I don't have a 120.2 and I never even considered using the stock HDD racks (pulled 'em out right away) so I'm only guessing but I don't see why it wouldn't fit....

[Sanborn]

Wait untill the TJ09 comes out, it looks so much better than the TJ07 (and the TJ07 is great, but from what i've heard about its acoustics I stayed away.)

[Aldy402]

Wait untill the TJ09 comes out, it looks so much better than the TJ07 (and the TJ07 is great, but from what i've heard about its acoustics I stayed away.)

i still think the tj07 is a overall better case, i like the idea of the btx reversal because of desk orientation, and the rad placement without modification is definetly a big plus

[Helmore]

Do you have any pics of the TL-09, I can't really find any.

[Helmore]

Oh I think I found one, but it was a little contradictionary, look here, because it said TJ-08 but if you look at the specs, then the TJ-08 is a different case. The sign says that this demo system has an ATI AIW X1800XL and there clearly is something different in that system, so that must make that system a TJ-09 I guess.

[Sanborn]

That the 09, it looks better with side panel on too

[Anemone]

Like the 07 much better

[Aldy402]

hey clockker , would it be possible to take one of those hd racks and store it in the 5.25 bays? would it fit snug or would it actually protrude out a little bit?

[clokker]

I have considered that actually.
It could be done but I decided that a CoolerMaster 4into3 module (from one of my Stackers) would be a better option.
That's what I'm gonna try next.

[Aldy402]

I have considered that actually.
It could be done but I decided that a CoolerMaster 4into3 module (from one of my Stackers) would be a better option.
That's what I'm gonna try next.

yea i acutally looked it up and it does look more practical but why not save some money and just dump the stock hd rack in there? think about it

all you really have to do is use 2 screws and 2 nuts to hold it in place, you lose 1 hd space but theres still 2 left and you save some money

oh and are u using 2 rads? is that really neccessary ?