MSI 975X Platinum PowerUP + Conroe

[Haltech]

Any updates bro?

[pcdoc1]

Any updates bro?

None... Shipping bios sucks, 7.11 fixes very little... If you can even find 7.14 and it fixes current issues, it probably doesn't fix "The Limited Feature Set" so what's the point? I thought I had a solution but after looking at current inventory I'm not sure I can even blow this up in the driveway...

[Haltech]

Well lets hope we get some better boards down the road. Its been a long time since i went to Intel.. The time i decide to go, its nothing but problems on the motherboard end. en processor, complete trash for boards. Im sort of speechless.

Im going to try to locate a Biostar Tforce in the meantime until something better from NV or ATI hits us.

[TodB]

I have some connections @MSI... will try to do something tomorrow

I recently got some "special" BIOS for the K9N-SLI and It had more options like NB voltage... the original one doesn't... will see to it tomorrow

[dogsx2]

I have some connections @MSI... will try to do something tomorrow

I recently got some "special" BIOS for the K9N-SLI and It had more options like NB voltage... the original one doesn't... will see to it tomorrow

Thanks, if you find out something please post back.

It was sure rotten for a mod on MSI forums to post he has a new bios and pm him for it and then disappear for the weekend.

pcdoc, the good thing is there is only one way to go, up. I don't think that it will get worse. I'm just thankful that nothing else is sold like motherboards where you buy something that does not work right and your suppose to wait quietly for them to fix what is wrong and be happy about it.

I guess if there is one statement that gets me it's: it new tech and it takes time to get the problems sorted out. Why did they send it out if the finished product was not right. I can see where there maybe some compatabilty problems that needs to have a fix but nothing like this.

[TodB]

I guess if there is one statement that gets me it's: it new tech and it takes time to get the problems sorted out. Why did they send it out if the finished product was not right. I can see where there maybe some compatabilty problems that needs to have a fix but nothing like this.

You ARE and AREN'T right about that at the same time... why... because @MSI they test it with limited hardware... "limited", because they simpla cannot recreate every single end user configuration, that all those people will make... and one more think - why people think, that the board should make at least 400FSB and that IS a problem? Nobody garantees that.... not even ASUS, Gigabyte, Abit.... no body...

So that's why new boards most of the times do have bios problems... that's why we have bios updates... because it's never perfect... can't be... and It's good, that those serious brands think about us and make bios updates... try to deal with the "not so good brands" and look how many bios/board problems they got and how frequently we got BIOS Updates...

The Big Brands need that customer feedback, that will help them make tha board better... so everything, that they couldn't simulate, we do... and thats why we got bios updates after that.... but that can't be done in a day or two... a BIOS update ain't that simple... I mean version, that is actually correcting all those reported problems

Peace out

P.S. Corrected to get the misunderstanding out of the topic

[dogsx2]

- why do you think, that the board should make at least 400FSB and that IS a problem?
Peace out

Do you have a link where I said that? Please don't quote me without a link.

I have never thought that, but this board I have is now running 400 x 7 as I type. Read thread on it to see what problems guys like pcdoc and I are having.

[TodB]

I said it in general.... not that you've said it...

But most of the people complain that those boards dont overclock like they "should" - so it's a crapy board....

I got the 975X PE... and I like it... do not have problems besides the fact, that there's no multiplier option for the E6700ES and I'm stuck at 10x380... and under windows I cannot change the FSB... Dual Core Cell won't do it...

For now, that's my "problems" with the 975X PE

One more think - how do you people recognize the version? cuz mine here says Ver.7.0, 071206..... does that mean 712?

[ZBr]

Any updates bro?

Beta BIOS 714 now available at MSI's forum if you PM Maesus here!

Edit: sorry, old news i guess, but new to me!

[dogsx2]

Beta BIOS 714 now available at MSI's forum if you PM Maesus here!

We knew that 24 hours ago.

He pm'd me a link but it doesn't work.

[dogsx2]

But most of the people complain that those boards dont overclock like they "should" - so it's a crapy board....

Maybe that's because this is an overclocking forum.

[Lestat]

Maybe that's because this is an overclocking forum.

its not even that its an overclocking form.
its that
1)
these boards are directly marketed to the enthusiast
2)
for the price they had better give you a hummer while it OC's
3)
if the overclock options are in the bios, then what are we to think ?
4)
if we didnt want to overclock then we would buy a non enthusiast board. and we sure as hell wouldnt be paying 200-275 for a board.

guys remember how a year+ ago the DFI Ultra-D series was out and everyone complained about that price, and that started the movement for the hiest end A64 boards to be around $200. but for 125 bucks that ultra-d just kicked the living crap out of every other amd board out there and still to this day is the best board to get.

Now the highest end Conroe boards are $275 and up. And they are some of the most craptacular boards i have ever seen.
my friggin $145 DS3 (unmodded) outclocks almost every highend board here(without mods), and it sure as hell clocked higher then the boards ive had thus far.

We are the consumer, we expect to get what we paid for, and ANY and i mean any god dang board whether its a 486 or friggin Itanium Server board, that costs as much as these pieces of sh|t do, that didnt just make you wet your pants with its performance and layout and features and add-ons.
well to not get that for as much as we are paying. that boys and girls is just straight poo.

but as long as you guys keep buying these high dollar boards and supporting these companies who consistantly put out crap, msi, abit, asus, they will keep doing it.
stop buying their stuff and maybe they will start producing better product.

im really burnt about this board, i was really hoping MSI would pull a great board out of their now checkered history.
oh well... maybe nest time.

[Sumanji]

Now the highest end Conroe boards are $275 and up. And they are some of the most craptacular boards i have ever seen.

QFT

[dogsx2]

http://www.savefile.com/files/5454095

Here is the link for the 714 bios.

[TodB]

Lestat, nobody guaranteed you anything considering the MAX overclocking capabilities.... there's no info about that in the manual, nor it's on the website... you're pleased to expect everything you want
Nevermind....

dogsx2, is that file supposed to be 1MB? damn.... is there a way you can RAR or ZIP it.... I'm not very comfortable downloading BIOS, when it's not compressed so there's a chance it's corrupted during the downloading

[NickS]

AAaanndd, rehosted. http://nickfire.com/msibios/975x-powerup/7246v714B.zip

[TodB]

Thanx man

Flashed.... rebooted.... no new options.... like Vmch or memory timings...

[NickS]

In the other thread someone reported better overclockability, so try that .

[dogsx2]

It's a baby step. Before 400 fsb was prime stable now 410 is for sure. Tried 420 and it couldn't finish spi 1m. Didn't try anything in between 410 and 420 yet. DCC still isn't right. Look at 5v. Somethings are closer. Still no changing fsb in it. Bios reads right cache and fsb now. Haven't tried ide 2 yet. Nothing new in bios though.
Tomorrow I get my 6400 and will know more it it's the cpu or mb.

[NickS]

Not bad . It just needs a vMCH option.

[NickS]

http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=99831.new#new

Everyone look and post what you want.

[TodB]

One more thing - can you change the FSB through Windows with Dual Core Center? I cant change even 1MHz... it freezes...

[dogsx2]

One more thing - can you change the FSB through Windows with Dual Core Center? I cant change even 1MHz... it freezes...

Nope, it will freeze it.

[pcdoc1]

...but as long as you guys keep buying these high dollar boards and supporting these companies who consistantly put out crap, msi, abit, asus, they will keep doing it. stop buying their stuff and maybe they will start producing better product.

Only you would suggest that it's the users fault!

im really burnt about this board, i was really hoping MSI would pull a great board out of their now checkered history.
oh well... maybe nest time.

And why would you care, you don't own one... This is just another one of your post, just to post!

[pcdoc1]

pcdoc, the good thing is there is only one way to go, up. I don't think that it will get worse. I'm just thankful that nothing else is sold like motherboards where you buy something that does not work right and your suppose to wait quietly for them to fix what is wrong and be happy about it.

I guess if there is one statement that gets me it's: it new tech and it takes time to get the problems sorted out. Why did they send it out if the finished product was not right. I can see where there maybe some compatabilty problems that needs to have a fix but nothing like this.

Well it looks like there's no reason to fire this board backup as it appears 714 doesn't fix crap... I agree with ya on the "new tech" stuff as all the people posting previews of these new boards gave us alot screenies, high clocks, record fsb shots and so on, too bad they didn't also share the grief involved... I appreciate the "First Look" stuff but maybe sharing a little of the bad with the good would better serve members...

Good luck with the 6400.