AMD 4x4 to support normal X2 CPUs?

[K404]

Taken from TheInq report:

"Basically, the chips will be standard A64 X2s with at least 1 ccHT link not turned off so they can talk. If there is any special sauce, AMD did not talk about it , and I would not expect any earth-shattering jumps in performance on single- or low-threaded games. AMD also said the concept will carry over to eight cores, two quad-core chips, but they won't be called 8X4."

Source: http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=33268

Thats a reporter from The Inquirer, and his words, not an official AMD line. Assuming he was at the meeting, and saw what was shown with his own eyes...it might actually be true?

K

[biohead]

didnt we know already that this platform was for normal X2's/singlecores? thats the whole cool thing about it, just get two INSANELY cheap x2-3800's and well, assuming they do 2,8-3,0ghz, thats some quadcore power i say

[informal]

Really interesting part of Charlie's civerage:

Again, with 4X4, you end up with double the memory bandwidth, so this is far less of a problem. With clever software you can partition it so the game gets all the CPU it needs, and no less than a normal CPU's worth of bandwidth. Could this be the 'special sauce' I keep hearing about?

[Cobalt]

I agree with biohead here. There would be no point in 4x4 if you had to get special processors. You might as well have got some opterons.

[Hooker]

Uhm, isn't the 4x4 only limited to FX CPU's?!?


http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3509

[biohead]

that would make absolutely no sense and would be absolutely retarded. enthusiasts aren't just filthy rich kids hello?

[Cobalt]

There would be no profit on 4x4 if it was just for FX. How many people buy a single FX? Not many in the gand scheme of things. SO you'd need to pay double on processors and then thers the motherboards as well

[zakelwe]

Yeah but if it is not FX only then surely it steals FX sales ? That was the theory behind it being only FX.

I think it is just a marketing ploy to distract from Conroe and steal some of the thunder.

Regards

Andy

[nn_step]

Don't forget the fact that the up coming quad cores support 4x4 and allowing Cheap 8 core setups a year before Intel could put one out

[Sanborn]

Can someone explain this to me....how is 4x4 any different from Opteron?

[nn_step]

Can someone explain this to me....how is 4x4 any different from Opteron?

1) Mobos are able to Overclock
2) aren't made to be Servers
3) no registered Ram required
4) SCSI is no where to be found onboard

[ozzimark]

and #5! pci-e instead of pci-x

[nn_step]

and #5! pci-e instead of pci-x

and what I am dreaming of getting here soon is HTX slots PCIe gets its ass handed to itself when it comes to latency

[arisythila]

mmm. HTX

~Mike

[zakelwe]

This goes for Kentsfield as well ...

What software that we use and really are desperately in need for needs 4 cores ?

For us, would it not be better to have a much more overclockable really fast and cheap dual core whether it be Brisbane or Core2 ?

It seems to me that the majority of desktop software is just moving over from single core and yet Intel and AMD are forcing 4 cores down our throats too soon. Not many desktop apps need 4 cores, when multitasking hardly anyone does a game whilst ripping a cd and downloading a new demo because even though all the 4 cores can do it we humans tend to concentrate on one thing a time.

I might be a bit of a Luddite but give me a dual core which has one core for OS and one for the app I am running and make it half as cheap as 4 core and half as much money to run. Then I am happy.

Intel and AMD have made people go multi core crazy just so they can charge more as they lower the process from 90 to 65 to 45.

Hold on this is XS ... I need a

Regards
Andy

[arisythila]

LOL. I don't need my ass whooped, but 4 cores, I cant even think of a game that supports 2 cores, or any software. So yeah... Its kinda wierd. But I still cant wait for them to come out!

~Mike

[FghtinIrshNvrDi]

I was under the impression that FEAR was dual threaded, and got some better FPS when you had a dual core.

I'm not jumping on the multi-core platform bandwagon till I find out where this is going to level out, and what the 'standard' is, if there is one. Maybe quad core will level off and be the champ for a while. 8 cores... useless.

Ryan

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

zakelwe, us Distributed Computingers would LOVE 4 cores on desktop, much less 8 *drools*

[Scimitar]

LOL. I don't need my ass whooped, but 4 cores, I cant even think of a game that supports 2 cores, or any software. So yeah... Its kinda wierd. But I still cant wait for them to come out!

~Mike

My copies of Deep Junior and Deep Fritz use many many cores / processors. They have been run on 128 processor systems.

Not that I would buy a new setup for chess analysis for anything, but computer chess tournaments are pretty fun, in a geek kind of way.

[biohead]

it's just the fact that you always have spare cores left to do other stuff, i don't necessarely need all cores to do the same thing. even though it's all programmable, it wasn't the initial intention anyway. Four cores, yummy. eight cores. Encoding lots of stuff at the same time. And playing a game. JUM-HEE!!!

[nn_step]

well it would definately be a hell of alot more fun for all of us. For example I have one of my Cores dedicated to my music, Evilplayer gets realtime priority and exclusive use of the second core
Which is Ironic Considering it is the Lightest Media player on Earth

[VulgarHandle]

i like them showing how 3dmark '06 started on the FX-62 first, but finished on the '4x4' first...lol

[arisythila]

yeah, I play a MMO, and I load one instance on one core, and the other instance on the other core... works good. I couldnt imaging having 4 instances running.. LOL

~Mike

[3NZ0]

If there is any special sauce

mmm...'eatable' sources.






yes im aware

[gallag]

That article makes me think that you will have to use fx cpus, it quite clearly states

The hardware itself consists of two dual core CPUs and four GPUs, hence the 4X4 moniker. AMD said there is not going to be just one 4X4, there will be a range of 4X4s, including at least two with a price under $1,000. It will also be branded FX in one way or another.

This is in stark contrast to the current FX line, or at least the current FX chip. These are only sold in the highest speed bin, and there is only one at a time. With the 4X4 line, it will be physically different, so there will be no pesky "an FX-57 is different from a straight A64, how?" questions, it is different.