Foxconn C51XEM2AA + 3800+ Orleans on the test bed! Pics! (56k)

[fhpchris]

Makes me wanna go 4x512mb all over again

Perkam

You should see my 4x1gb D9GMH action on the Aopen

[3oh6]

Dual core makes that much of a difference? I don't remeber that with 939...

~Mike

yeah i was caught off gaurd by the low single core numbers as well. check my thread on some solid OCZ sticks...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106976

stoopid memory clocks but with a single core, the bandwidth numbers are just mediocre at best.

@AFI, the more i look at that mass of ballistix memory jammed intot he slots the dead sexier it gets. those heatspreaders X4 just looks sick.

[ozzimark]

I don't think that DDR2-1080 is some magic number (as you mentioned) or a limit. Probably just a coincidence, that we're both hitting same clocks. I was on 4x1GB though...

count me in on that coincidence... i'm topping out at around 543mhz with 4-4-3
edit: with 2x1gb.
a 256mb stick has no problem at ~580mhz?

[3oh6]

my Foxconn C51 hit a wall of 1080 with OCZ 2x1GB (C4 or C5) but i thought it was CPU related...hmmm. i will investigate that right now i guess. the M2N32 has no issues with my 3GHz 3200+ running 2x1GB 1100 4-4-3-5.

[afireinside]

Nice ram post 3oh6

Working on a 32m and 3d01 compare between 2 and 4 sticks give me an hour.

[afireinside]

Well I'm not sure what's going on now but I can't get 542.5 to pass 32m anymore with 4 sticks. Both the new and old set do the speed fine on their own

[john3]

what type of cooling are you using?

that is amazing results, im also gettin ghte 3800+, and was wondering which mobo i should guess, not anymore i guess, lol.

[afireinside]

stock amd headpipe cooler from opterons.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Try placing a fan over the ram or something. Try switching the ram slots they are in (ie blue with black). Great reveiw AFI.

[john3]

OMG! that is nuts, i cant wait for mine.

[afireinside]

Try placing a fan over the ram or something. Try switching the ram slots they are in (ie blue with black). Great reveiw AFI.

Already have two fans flowing over them and I've tested each set in both slots and both sets are 32m stable in either slots at 550+. Even with looser secondary timings I can't get 542 stable with 4 sticks again. I think it's some sort of IMC limitation at 2gb/4 sticks as bachus, ozzi, and 3oh6 are hitting similar walls. I'll try to pick up an X2 tonight to see if the winsdor core has a better IMC.

[afireinside]

Ran dry ice today finally. What a mess. Here's what happened.

Booted 3ghz, 3.1 locks. YAY COLD BUG! So I run SP2004 and start clocking. 3.4ghz at 1.7v not bad. 3.45 locked so I head into BIOS to set 1.75v. I shovled more ice into the pot and as I pushed it down the system shut off. Instead of being logical and realizing that I had bent the board to far, I tore it all apart. No condensation.

Bios was reading 44C at this point (wtf?)

Put nail polish over the SMDs on the CPU thinking they got a bit damp. Remount and now I can't get over 3.1ghz or so. Then 2.9ghz started freezing in windows. I tore it down thinking bad contact. Nope! Best contact I've seen in months

Bios was reading 17C on that mount

Remount a third time with no nail polish. Got to 3.3ghz but couldn't get over it no matter what ram speed, timings, cpu voltage, or if I took 2 sticks of ram out. Eventually prime started crashing after 3d/pi and I was running out of ice

Bios was reading 23c this mount

Pics:





Yeah I insulated with paper towel It worked great!





Yeah I blow at taking pictures

I have a small video clip but it's a 9mb avi and I'm to lazy to convert it using windows movie maker or whatever. I installed that ATI AVIVIO thing to do it with my X1900XT but I have no idea how to use it.

I have CPUZ validation of this clock but of course it's going to screw me and say "File not authorized"



Only run I bothered to save a picture of. I had 28.375 sec with the ram at 3-3-3-5 2t. Quite unimpressive. Depressing actually. I couldn't run bandwidth either as sandra 05 and 07 didn't want to open for me. 8m clocked in at 4m 54s. Didn't want to waste any more time with 32m.

ddr1100mhz WILL NOT run at -72c
1T WILL NOT run at -72c

AM2 is slow.

I have a 3800+ x2 coming tomorrow but I'm just going to test it, swap it into my daily rig, and sell my 939 stuff. Time to wait for conroe. If a single core cold bugs at 250 htt then a 10x multi dual core isn't going anywhere.

http://afireinside.evilspork.net/AFI/AM2/MVI_07750.wmv
^right click save as

AVIVO is awesome! It's a shame the rest of ATIs driver is so bad. I'll save my ATI rant for another day.

[NickS]

Nice run man. Too bad about the remounts but overall it seems like AM2 really isn't that much better than 939!

[fhpchris]

Nice run man. Too bad about the remounts but overall it seems like AM2 really isn't that much better than 939!

That has to be wrong, your running 3.3ghz DDR800 @ 3-3-3-5 @ dice.

And You cannot beat my 3.1ghz DDR530 @ 3-3-2-5 @ air.

Is something wrong with that run?

[3oh6]

Is something wrong with that run?

yeah, stress prime running in the background to keep temps up and from locking...i am sure AFI can get better times with that rig of his on air...easy like.

as for your run, crappy to hear you had such a bad run of it. you weren't alone the last couple of days. i put an x2 3800+ into the foxconn last night, on booting i got a bunch of beeps and a quick flash on the screen about checksum then a reboot and get no beeps now, just double 00 on the diagnostic. not sure what the happened but its not looking good...processor is fine and running in a Biostar 570 U (crippled with current BIOS). i'm thinking BIOS but who knows, either way...my AM2 world isn't so peachy either.

[fhpchris]

yeah, stress prime running in the background to keep temps up and from locking...i am sure AFI can get better times with that rig of his on air...easy like.

as for your run, crappy to hear you had such a bad run of it. you weren't alone the last couple of days. i put an x2 3800+ into the foxconn last night, on booting i got a bunch of beeps and a quick flash on the screen about checksum then a reboot and get no beeps now, just double 00 on the diagnostic. not sure what the happened but its not looking good...processor is fine and running in a Biostar 570 U (crippled with current BIOS). i'm thinking BIOS but who knows, either way...my AM2 world isn't so peachy either.

AFIs best 1m @ air is 28.5s.

[ozzimark]

AFIs best 1m @ air is 28.5s.

that's about what i get with a sempron with 256kb cache at 2.95ghz and 2x1gb at 491mhz, 4-4-3, 2T

[3oh6]

that's about what i get with a sempron with 256kb cache at 2.95ghz and 2x1gb at 491mhz, 4-4-3, 2T

that sounds about right, and AFI getting that number on air sounds about right as well. i was just implying that he should be getting much better times at that high a clock so there is likely an explanation or something simple.

on a similar note...lately i have been trying to get my 3GHz records from 939 and I can't touch my 32M or 1M times with a sinlge core AM2. i can get down to 27.5 for 1M but even with the crazy clocking memory i have right now...i don't see AM2 breaking 27 seconds under 3GHz. perhaps it is the lack of 1MB L2 cache...anyone else close???

[fhpchris]

that sounds about right, and AFI getting that number on air sounds about right as well. i was just implying that he should be getting much better times at that high a clock so there is likely an explanation or something simple.

on a similar note...lately i have been trying to get my 3GHz records from 939 and I can't touch my 32M or 1M times with a sinlge core AM2. i can get down to 27.5 for 1M but even with the crazy clocking memory i have right now...i don't see AM2 breaking 27 seconds under 3GHz. perhaps it is the lack of 1MB L2 cache...anyone else close???

I just broke in the 27s 1m on Air on my 939, and I do not see am2 doing that on dual core anytime soon after seeing AFI's results.

Apparently its hard to duplicate BH-5 still ;D

[3oh6]

I just broke in the 27s 1m on Air on my 939, and I do not see am2 doing that on dual core anytime soon after seeing AFI's results.

Apparently its hard to duplicate BH-5 still ;D

sorry to jack your thread AFI but...was that at or under 3GHz in the 27s with BH-5? i have only been able to pull it off with TCCD and can't get the voltage monsters to get the job done. no DDRII i have touched will get past 27.5 at 3GHz but i am only working with 512 L2 instead of the 1MB on the 939.

[afireinside]

Sorry to hear about your bad luck with the x2 Does the board still work with a single core?

Nah chris was at 3.1ghz with some OCZ EB.

SP2004 didn't help but I also got my best time ever with it running. 3.57ghz in win 2k pulled me 23.1sec with SP2004 open.

LDB4F 0626 XPMW 3800+ here. Bet this one bugs even worse

My times sucked so bad at 3.3 because I was running 3-3-3-5 2t at 413mhz. You really need 500+ at 4-4-4-8 2t to see any power from DDR2. Only problem is high mem clocks like 550 required to get that power don't run thanks to cold bug.

[afireinside]

Spent a few hours with the 3800+... It's HOT! I've thought core temp is a load of BS but I think it's right here. Telling me I'm loading 52/55C (how can it read 2 temps from one die?) so I touched the heatpipes (still using stock AMD cooler) and they were HOT! 4 sticks of ram at 2.5v gets pretty hot to.

As usual I'm running dual 32m. I figured I could either run 561mhz with 2 sticks of 466 with 4... I chose 2 sticks





Vcore = 1.45v

I tried up to 1.55v to get 2.9ghz stable but it BSOD'd half way through and the heatpipes were scolding hot. I need a better cooler.

So I decided to try bandwidth (got sandra to work again thanks to ozzimark ) and got this first try:



Decided to try 4 sticks and with some pushing I got 11k!



I've never been able to get 4 sticks stable over 540mhz with the orleans so I was surprised. Maybe the windsor IMC is much stronger? I'll test pi tomorrow but I need a break for now. 4 way interleaving seems to give about 600mb in buffered bandwidth, at 2.8ghz anyway. I was hitting 10,950ish at 2.8 flat so I kicked it up a notch for 11k

[3oh6]

aces on the 11K AFI, i haven't had the pleasure of breaking it myself yet because my X2 memory controller won't play nice at DDR1100 4-4-3-5...AKA it candle handle it with 2GBs. i haven't had enough time to mess aorund with it to figure out foresure if the memory controller is my issue or not. the water will be available soon enough so i can move it back over there and see what is up.

[perkam]

This chip doesn't do your dice skills justice afi

Grab an X2 if you can

Perkam

[afireinside]

Thanks perkam

aces on the 11K AFI, i haven't had the pleasure of breaking it myself yet because my X2 memory controller won't play nice at DDR1100 4-4-3-5...AKA it candle handle it with 2GBs. i haven't had enough time to mess aorund with it to figure out foresure if the memory controller is my issue or not. the water will be available soon enough so i can move it back over there and see what is up.

Damn If you clockgen to ddr1100 or higher at 4-4-3-5 does it insta lock? I can't remember if my single core does. Pretty sure this X2 has a stronger memory controller that's letting me run 561 with 2gb for sandra at least. Didn't have time to play with it today. I'm going to try mounting watercooling again, hopefully I get good contact this time. Also need to install photoshop so I don't have to use paint to resize pics. Paint makes them look bad