ASUS P5W DH mods & E6700@4G by water-cooling

[toddm27]

nice clocks

[quent]

Can someone test wich resistance is needed to get the Vcore stable *please*, or tell me if lower than 40k would be OK.

Thanks

[lawrywild]

wow.. been eyeing up that mobo, it's definately my next motherboard..

[Eastcoasthandle]

Can someone test wich resistance is needed to get the Vcore stable *please*, or tell me if lower than 40k would be OK.

Thanks

wow, just wow...how much is that board again

[quent]

wow, just wow...how much is that board again

It's so harsh to sold the trimmer, set the good value, remove it and take the resistance between bots pins

I don't want someone to test my method but to *using kyosen's methode* find a resistance which would be approximately OK.

I haven't got this board so I can't test this.. I'm sorry.

Thank you very much for your help mate.

[sierra_bound]

The board retails for around $300 in Japan. I'm guessing the price will be $270-280 when it becomes available in the U.S. Top-of-the-line 975X boards are generally expensive.

Thanks, kyosen for all the mods.

[quent]

$314 in france..

[FischOderAal]

I only payed 208€ incl delivery :p

can't believe it's that cheap here! (people tend to claim the prices are far to high)

[kiwi]

And you call that top of the line?

Top of the line is where you don't need any mods (ok maybe 1-2 advanced and most likely optional mods only), for example DFI LP series

[sierra_bound]

Yes, I call it top-of-the-line. I'm not saying the board is perfect. No board is. The P5W DH is not even being marketed as an enthusiast's board.

Intel-based boards make up only about 5% of DFI's production. I know Oskar Wu is a talented man. But companies like Asus and MSI have much more experience with Intel boards. It's something to think about. I'm sure the DFI LP will have lots of overclocking features. Let's just hope it's reliable. At $270-300 a pop, replacing boards becomes very expensive. Also, DFI has this habit of releasing a board, followed a month later by the Deluxe, then the Super Deluxe, then the Super-duper Extreme Deluxe.

The other thing I wanted to mention is that unless you're using very extreme cooling, 1.6 VCore is probably going to be more than enough for most people who have Conroe. I have an E6700 and speak from experience.

[toddm27]

yeah the dfi boards are definatly not a reliable option, especially when talking about the expert boards and picky about components, lets hope dfi straightens this out with there new line of boards

[kyosen]

FischOderAal> but you increased the Chipset Voltage for 450mhz FSB now, didn't you?
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Yeah, Vmch=1.905V

FischOderAal> would be insane if not 450mhz FSB without Mods or rising voltages
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SturmoV> I, too, would like to know this. Are those mods really necessary to push Conroe to
SturmoV> 4Ghz on water with this board?
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I don't know P5W-DH behaviour without mods,
because I've modified all before first power-on
Mod itself is an object for me...<b>No Mods, No Life</b>

thunderstruck!> Did you run 3D01? Can you show us pleeeease?
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I failed to running 3D01 by LN2-cooling, but water-cooling is enough for 70k+
<img src="http://222.151.145.37/c-board/file/3DM01_70556_E6700_3904.png">

quent> Do you think so this will be safe ?
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Yes, parallel connecting should be also working fine.
I just avoid non-linear change of resistance value.
BTW, Vdroop mod may not be necessary, I feel
Vcore drop is very little(~0.003V) under load, in my case.

vanovich> heres a link to the clameshell
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OK, I understand...
The space arround CPU socket of P5W-DH is tight...occupied by capacitors.
but I don't have the clamshell, so I can't judge whether it's available or not, sorry.

crotale> can you change the vcore in that BIOS?
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I couldn't...I used Ai Booster, though its behaviour was strange.
I set 1.3125V in Ai Booster, and adjust with VR.
QuadDamage said existence of BIOS 0065,
and FischOderAal introduced the link to the BIOS in another thread:
http://members.inode.at/p.damjanovic/0065.rar
I'll try it later.
BTW, congratulations for your 3D work

[ost_2005]

quent> Do you think so this will be safe ?
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Yes, parallel connecting should be also working fine.
I just avoid non-linear change of resistance value.
BTW, Vdroop mod may not be necessary, I feel
Vcore drop is very little(~0.003V) under load, in my case.

How did you know Vdroop mod may not be necessary?

You said :"I don't know P5W-DH behaviour without mods,
because I've modified all before first power-on."

So I wanna know if it is ture that Vcore drop is very little(~0.003V) under load without Vdroop mod.

[kyosen]

How did you know Vdroop mod may not be necessary?

You said :"I don't know P5W-DH behaviour without mods,
because I've modified all before first power-on."

So I wanna know if it is ture that Vcore drop is very little(~0.003V) under load without Vdroop mod.

My Vdroop-mod method can be set almost as same as without mod,
because I replaced 51k-ohm fixed resistor with 50k-ohm VR.
This is another why I remove and replace resistor.
And I noticed Vcore drop is a little in 50k-ohm state,
so I described that "may" not be necessary.

[afireinside]

I don't know P5W-DH behaviour without mods,
because I've modified all before first power-on
Mod itself is an object for me...No Mods, No Life

Some great work Kyosen-san

I don't get why every everyone wants all the options handed to them. Up until recently you HAD to vmod to get to the top. It separated the boys from the men. Those who really wanted the big clocks and those who just wanted a faster computer. Puts more "skill", "balls", and electrical know-how into overclocking and less on money and luck.

[crotale]

I couldn't...I used Ai Booster, though its behaviour was strange.
I set 1.3125V in Ai Booster, and adjust with VR.
QuadDamage said existence of BIOS 0065,
and FischOderAal introduced the link to the BIOS in another thread:
http://members.inode.at/p.damjanovic/0065.rar
I'll try it later.
BTW, congratulations for your 3D work

Thank you very much for the link, we can change multi and vcore from BIOS now

[Eastcoasthandle]

I read that vdroop was 0.03 to 0.05 not sure if this is true.

[cronic]

nice work on the mods. However I can't get the pics to work in either firefox or ie.

[^don.k's^]

Some great work Kyosen-san

I don't get why every everyone wants all the options handed to them. Up until recently you HAD to vmod to get to the top. It separated the boys from the men. Those who really wanted the big clocks and those who just wanted a faster computer. Puts more "skill", "balls", and electrical know-how into overclocking and less on money and luck.

nice work on the mods. However I can't get the pics to work in either firefox or ie.

They works ok for me, using firefox.

Regards!

[hipogtr]

Thanks for your work on the mods. Always great to see these tricks in action.

[dpa]

in the pictures you say its pin 4 @ vmch mod, but you dont use that pin...? same at vdimm mod....!!

[kyosen]

in the pictures you say its pin 4 @ vmch mod, but you dont use that pin...? same at vdimm mod....!!

Oh, it's miss type, FB=Pin#6, sorry
And yes, as both Vmch & Vdimm are controlled RT9214, mod method is same.

[d@rkn1ko]

ok 6 it's the good pin

[kyosen]

ok 6 it's the good pin

Yeah, now revised

[Lestat]

After all this time Asus boards still need a volt mod in order to work correctly vs boards like DFI Infinity that don't seem to need them...I think the choice is clear with my long loyality with Asus. And, it's coming to an end like a freight train de-railing...

No, this is by no means a flame on the OP for doing the Volt mod. It simply makes no sense that one is still needed for these boards with such advanced CPUS.

its one of the big reasons why i dispize(sp) asus. not only do you need volt mods to make their highest price boards run the way they should be out of the box you also need to droop mod them.
this board doesnt seem to require a volt mod although im still seeing people report 0.05v droop which is just retarded.

personally i ordered it from ewiz simply for a placeholder until dfi brings their lanparty series to the scene.
and now that ewiz and their non updating website caused many people to have their orders cancelled im glad i missed out on their stock.
i think im going to wait until a proper board comes out.