AMD Pricing Strategy

[perkam]

AMD Price cuts have come...but in time for Rev G A64s to be re-introduced at the same old x2 pricing ??

After this happens:



Will This Happen ?

A64 X2 5200+ RevG 65nm $420 2.6Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5400+ RevG 65nm $450 2.8Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 5600+ RevG 65nm $480 2.8Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5800+ RevG 65nm $500 3.0Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 6000+ RevG 65nm $550 3.0Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 6200+ RevG 65nm $650 3.2Ghz 2x512K
A64 FX-64 RevG 65nm $999 3.2Ghz 1MB

Get it? AMD can offer its earliest response to conroe (Rev G) for the SAME prices as the current X2s. So ~$200 Conroe will price AND performance war.

This is VERY likely because chips of a new process are ALWAYS more expensive. I hope it isn't true, but if it is, its gonna be

Perkam

[BlackX]

this A64 X2 5600+ RevG $360 2.8Ghz looks quite good but could it stand against same priced conroe?

[perkam]

this A64 X2 5600+ RevG $360 2.8Ghz looks quite good but could it stand against same priced conroe?

Prices maybe higher than my calculations above.

Point is that AMD will charge a premium for 65nm...while Intel won't for Conroe.

Perkam

[BlackX]

Prices maybe higher than my calculations above.

Point is that AMD will charge a premium for 65nm...while Intel won't for Conroe.

Perkam

Hope it wont happen AMD atm could fight Conroe only with lower prices, which they can make using 65nm tech, but if they keep prices that high I will choose conroe

[Cooper]

I think X2 5200 with 2.6GHz and 13x multy for $325 looks very good.
Perhaps there will be even cheaper models like this X2 3600+

[Starscream]

dont care, i want socket 939 X2s to drop

and about the 65nm prices wel nothing is 100% and we wont know their retail prices till they have landed in the stores and after the price gouging has gone.

[Lightman]

I think X2 5200 with 2.6GHz and 13x multy for $325 looks very good.
Perhaps there will be even cheaper models like this X2 3600+

WOW!
If this CPU will be priced well, then it's nice response to P4D 805!

I like price wars so much!!

[BlackX]

I think X2 5200 with 2.6GHz and 13x multy for $325 looks very good.

X2 5600 looks better for only +35$

[perkam]

X2 5600 looks better for only +35$

lol....guys.

Those are MY prices I could have put $500 for the 5600 !!!

Plus some roadmaps state that 65nm line of X2s may use the SAME naming structure (starting with 3800+) that they are now.

Point was that AMD can use higher clockspeeds in 65nm to have more expensive chips.

lol though yes i have to admit $325 65nm 5200+ does look nice

Perkam

[RPGWiZaRD]

Is there any signs of S939 DC price drops is what I'm interested in, and especially S939 Opteron DCs. Here in europe Opteron 165 has basicly costed around 310 - 320€ at the cheapest place u find for many many months now while X2 3800+ price has slowly but surely went down to as low as 220€.

[BlackX]

lol....guys.

Those are MY prices I could have put $500 for the 5600 !!!

Plus some roadmaps state that 65nm line of X2s may use the SAME naming structure (starting with 3800+) that they are now.

Point was that AMD can use higher clockspeeds in 65nm to have more expensive chips.

lol though yes i have to admit $325 65nm 5200+ does look nice

Perkam

I will buy one from u m8

[Cooper]

ehem
Perk how exactly you calculated those ?
Perhaps real prices will be even lower to be competitive ?

[Dr.Love]

AMD Price cuts have come...but in time for Rev G A64s to be re-introduced at the same old x2 pricing ??

When this happens:

A64 X2 3800+ $150
A64 X2 4000+ $160
A64 X2 4200+ $180
A64 X2 4400+ $240
A64 X2 4600+ $275
A64 X2 4800+ $300
A64 X2 5000+ $325

Will This Happen ?

A64 X2 5200+ RevG 65nm $325 2.6Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5400+ RevG 65nm $350 2.8Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 5600+ RevG 65nm $360 2.8Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5800+ RevG 65nm $460 3.0Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 6000+ RevG 65nm $550 3.0Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 6200+ RevG 65nm $650 3.2Ghz 2x512K
A64 FX-64 RevG 65nm $999 3.2Ghz 1MB

Get it? AMD can offer its earliest response to conroe (Rev G) for the SAME prices as the current X2s. So ~$200 Conroe will price AND performance war.

This is VERY likely because chips of a new process are ALWAYS more expensive. I hope it isn't true, but if it is, its gonna be

Perkam

I rather expect EOL for 3800+ upto 4600+

[Kjaks]

Will This Happen ?

A64 X2 5200+ RevG 65nm $325 2.6Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5400+ RevG 65nm $350 2.8Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 5600+ RevG 65nm $360 2.8Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 5800+ RevG 65nm $460 3.0Ghz 2x512K
A64 X2 6000+ RevG 65nm $550 3.0Ghz 2x1MB
A64 X2 6200+ RevG 65nm $650 3.2Ghz 2x512K
A64 FX-64 RevG 65nm $999 3.2Ghz 1MB
Perkam

When is AMD expected to release 65 nm processors?

[keiths]

Without an IPC improvement, a 3.2GHz X2 won't be competative against Conroe, so it's hard to imagine them keeping/starting prices like that.

[BlackX]

Without an IPC improvement, a 3.2GHz X2 won't be competative against Conroe, so it's hard to imagine them keeping/starting prices like that.

Dont be so sure

[perkam]

When is AMD expected to release 65 nm processors?

Q4 2006. It's what we've been trying to tell everyone for a little while now

Perkam

[BlackX]

Q4 2006. It's what we've been trying to tell everyone for a little while now

Perkam

Hehe

[Kjaks]

AMD better give us xtreme users healthy competition

[nn_step]

I like it

[Ubermann]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800

[RPGWiZaRD]

$169 @ X2 3800+ is more like it. Hope this also affects Opterons tho, Opteron 165 should drop to 180 - $200 or so in that case or else it will be pointless to even sell them unless that's what AMD wants, shove the S939 Opty out of the doors already...

[Starscream]

the price of that x2 3800 made em horny. is that wrong?

been waiting for themt o drop to a nice lvl for a while now.

[nn_step]

what isn't to like about $170 Dual cores
but would be really nice is $99 Dual cores

[nn_step]

and even nicer - free quad core...

you all seem to be forgeting that initial conroe shimpents will soak into big players like dell, maybe a tiny little bit of chips will go retail, and our beloved retailers will put premium prices on them just cause they are hard to find. Intel prices are for big players - remember GTX 512? What was nvidia price, what was bom and what was the retail price

by the time conroe shipments become good rev G will be knocking at our door, and everything then will depend on how well does amd with the rev G


i think we will also see a 3.4 Ghz FX, 65 nm is the amd savior, not cause of higher freq and performance, but cause of lower production cost

Production costs are virtually nothing these days compared to R&D