ASUS P4P800 (springdale) beating Canterwood!

[macci]

Just read the review over at Hexus.net and quite interestingly the P4P800 is beating its 'big brother' - P4C800 - in all benchmarks!

3DMArk2001SE:


Compare URL for the P4P800 score.

Quite amazing I'd say!

[Stan]

hmmmm......interesting....

what about the comparison that youdid?

odd.....

edit** got mixed who did the comparison (opp or you macci)

[JeffPH]

i find it weird isnt the canterwood chip > springdale

[JCviggen]

very weird indeed.

I already read similar results at OCworkbench.

Goddamnit this kind of crap is going to get me trying an ASUS board again and ending in tragedy

however I would like some overclocking numbers on it... I wouldnt be surprised they're using tighter timings, lowering the OC you can get in terms of FSB

[macci]

I know it sounds wierd. Did a similar 875 vs. 865 test myself too (using DFI 875 and Albatron 865) and w/ both mobos running w/ a 3.0@4010MHz and overclocker R9800 the 875 was 1000Marks faster.
But its quite possible that ASUS has enabled certain performance related features on there 865PE BIOS. Also its interesting that Albatron just released a new BIOS for their 865PE mobo today...too bad I don't have the mobo here right now cos it would be interesting to see if the performance has been improved.

[macci]

Whoa here is the said mobo doing 355MHz FSB
edit: and this is done using normal room temp aircooling

[Stan]

OMFG

is it stable?

[Major]

Now you tell me ! hehe

[Zroc]

It just seems...off. Every other Springdale board out there performs like it should...less that 875P. I have no idea what kind of tom ('s hardware) foolery Asus is pulling on that one.

Anand and Tech Report pretty much found the same things macci and I did about Springdale v. 875P.

[macci]

OCWorkbench.com's P4P800 review. They got similar results too. P4P800 was able to beat the P4C800 which in turn beat the IC7.
I personally do believe that ASUS has just made a BIOS that uses the full potential of the chipset. Seems that other SPringdale mobo makers have in a way limited the performance. I could be wrong thou
But we'll see once someone gets it and does some serious benchmarking. I think its bye bye time for IC7 now
Have a feeling that the ASUS mobo will improve CPU overclockability a bit too
For instance the P4T533-C I used a while ago can beat the crap out of this IC7 in terms of CPU overclocking: w/ P4T533-C I was able to hit over 100MHz higher 1.6A overclock (over 3400MHz now struggling to get past 3.3GHz w/ IC7).

[OPPAINTER]

Alright, I was looking for a new mobo. So this would be the hot Idem then?

Are they avalible? I haven't read anything yet, to excited

OPP

[Zroc]

It just looks super-fishy to me. Perhaps they have some sort of FSB-jacking going on in there, like Tom found on the MSI 865PE board?
It just doesn't make sense though...why would they want to release a low-end board that smacks around their own high-end board?

Go get one, macci...Show us the truth

[Entuscan]

@Opp
How many do you want P4P800 normal or deluxe
To bad shipping from here (Belgium) To US costs so much (even more with low $)

Readely available here

@Zroc

Well the 865P and 875P Asus both do the same amount of fsb jacking, both running @ 202pointsomething stock.
making a 3.00Ghz into 3.03

that accounts for increase in performance over other 875 boards, but not for the Asus P4C800

[Jupiler]

Another review HERE 34 pages long.
Same result : the P4P800 beats all other boards, including the P4C800 and IC7.
I still can't understand how a Springdale board can beat a CW board in almost every benchmark.
Also strange to see that the P4P800 outperforms the Epox 4PDA2+ boards in memory scores.

PCMark2002 :
ASUS P4P800 : 8589
EPOX 4PDA2+ : 6905

Sandra Memory :
ASUS P4P800 : 5027
EPOX 4PDA2+ : 4289

1600 and 800 points difference, almost seems to good to be true.
I wonder what ASUS has been up to. PAT is only supported by the Canterwood boards. Do you think they might have implemented it in their Springdale boards?? Just wondering.

[Entuscan]

Originally posted by Jupiler

I wonder what ASUS has been up to. PAT is only supported by the Canterwood boards. Do you think they might have implemented it in their Springdale boards?? Just wondering.

I think PAT is enabled but then it deff is on the canterwood. so that can't account for the differance between both Asus springdale and canterwood

[OPPAINTER]

Looks like this board only gets to about 1.65 v-core and only 2.85 mem voltage. Anybody have links to Vmods on this mobo?

OPP

[Entuscan]

288fsb 3dmark run with R9700

pretty good results if you ask me

[JCviggen]

Originally posted by Entuscan
288fsb 3dmark run with R9700

pretty good results if you ask me

lobby scores are slightly better than mine at 3.4 GHz/243 5:4 ...

goddamnit this is just going to get me to buy one

[Entuscan]

Originally posted by JCviggen
lobby scores are slightly better than mine at 3.4 GHz/243 5:4 ...

goddamnit this is just going to get me to buy one

Contact me, might be able to get some cheap.
Looking into some myself
Just havent decided on Deluxe or not

[JCviggen]

I can get them right now in germany @ 139 , Factor can prolly get them cheaper but wont know till tomorrow. And I dont need any deluxe crap

[JNav89GT]

omg I will probably get one and it will sux. LOL I will jinx you all and buy one only to have Asus ship them with some regular bios and not the PAT enabled like I assume it is in the boards that got sent out for review

[deeznuts]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Alright, I was looking for a new mobo. So this would be the hot Idem then?

Are they avalible? I haven't read anything yet, to excited

OPP

yeah, i see the non-deluxe over at axiontech for $129 + 8 shipped to CA, no tax

deluxe vs. non-deluxe: according to an article i found, only difference i could find was firewire, and an additional raid controller via. also, speculation that the non-D is built in china.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboa...514172512.html

[OPPAINTER]

Originally posted by deeznuts
yeah, i see the non-deluxe over at axiontech for $129 + 8 shipped to CA, no tax

deluxe vs. non-deluxe: according to an article i found, only difference i could find was firewire, and an additional raid controller via. also, speculation that the non-D is built in china.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboa...514172512.html

All right, I'm going to M-Wave to pick one up right now. Maybe someone can get a hold of the v-mods for me so I can do them when I get back

See yea boys later

OPP

[Major]

Opp I've been looking around for the mods for the last couple of days with no luck

I suspect they may be the same as the P4G8X ??

[deeznuts]

Originally posted by OPPAINTER
All right, I'm going to M-Wave to pick one up right now. Maybe someone can get a hold of the v-mods for me so I can do them when I get back

See yea boys later

OPP

what other boards do you have? can you compare the p4p800 to them? i'm about two clicks away from ordering.