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    Anyone else having poor HDD performance with NF4 + Maxtor?




    WTF, it's a <9ns drive!?

    anyone having crappy performance with Maxtors?
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    Yeah I hadn't even noticed anything but I just ran it- 18.7ms? WTF
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    ya i have 2 maxtors that perform poorly as well

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    Glad I'm not the only one!!!

    I tried diabling NCQ and that didn't help, I reinstalled NF4 drivers and that didn't help either.

    I emailed their tech support asking for a new firmware.

    This is annoying, it was an expensive drive which is slow
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrywild
    Glad I'm not the only one!!!

    I tried diabling NCQ and that didn't help, I reinstalled NF4 drivers and that didn't help either.

    I emailed their tech support asking for a new firmware.

    This is annoying, it was an expensive drive which is slow
    I hate to be the one to tell you this but their Atlas line are the only drives of Maxtor worth buying...
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    Anyone with a seagate drive or WD drive with NF4 want to run HDtach for us? To get a comparison

    edit: BTW if maxtor sends you a new firmware, be sure to upload it here Thanks

    edit2: I'm gonna email them too.. the more inquiries the better with these big companies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    Anyone with a seagate drive or WD drive with NF4 want to run HDtach for us? To get a comparison

    edit: BTW if maxtor sends you a new firmware, be sure to upload it here Thanks

    edit2: I'm gonna email them too.. the more inquiries the better with these big companies
    Sure, but I heard they're really stingy with releasing the firmware...


    I ran it on my Seagate 2mb cache 80gb ATA which is sorta broken/dodgy but it works for storage and not OS and that did 15ns!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    edit2: I'm gonna email them too.. the more inquiries the better with these big companies
    make sure you mention your using Ultra-D, NF4 with all latest drivers and upload a screenshot of HDTach and put a link in the email
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    here are my 2 raptor 150's in raid 0:





    and here is just 1 raptor:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch
    here are my 2 raptor 150's in raid 0:

    that completely kills our drives
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    LOL...
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    I got a response already.. needs all my drive info and brief system specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    I got a response already.. needs all my drive info and brief system specs
    didn't you do it through the form on the site?

    that asked for all my details..

    what email did you use, I'll try it aswell
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    Yeah I did it through the site, I filled it all in but he needs more info, like the "TLA" and current firmware revision.

    Before we can process a firmware request, we will need the following information:

    *Serial Number (S/N) of drive
    *full TLA from drive label
    *code from drive label
    *system specifications, including motherboard model, and controller chipset
    *brief description of the issues you have been having with the drive
    edit: I ran another bench of HDtach to get a screenie for the support guy, and got 14.6ms
    edit2: Just kidding, back to normal now with a healthy 18.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    Yeah I did it through the site, I filled it all in but he needs more info, like the "TLA" and current firmware revision.



    edit: I ran another bench of HDtach to get a screenie for the support guy, and got 14.6ms
    hmm
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    I reran a couple of times and it went to 20ns, still VERY crappy..
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    20ns, that is super fast

    edit: here is some graphs of my 74gb raptors in raid-0

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    longer test


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    Got my update I will back up my music collection and flash, if it works I'll upload it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    Got my update I will back up my music collection and flash, if it works I'll upload it here.
    kool, is it BANC1G20?
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    Yeah, but it didn't fix the problem. Still 18.6ms Tried to upload but it says invalid file. Oh well

    BTW I didn't even bother backing up, I figure my whole collection is on the MP3 player anyway and it's not like it would screw up
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    you sure you are plugged into native sata and not sil image?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    Yeah, but it didn't fix the problem. Still 18.6ms Tried to upload but it says invalid file. Oh well

    BTW I didn't even bother backing up, I figure my whole collection is on the MP3 player anyway and it's not like it would screw up
    hmm ok so forget the firmware.. help me search google...

    so far we've tried

    - Changing SATA and IDE controller drives to windows stock. X (I just tried that)
    - Update Firmware. X
    - Activating SMART. X (but seemed to increase boot speeds slightly)


    I also found someone who said on other topics to try removing all other devices and trying, I'll try that in a sec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinch
    you sure you are plugged into native sata and not sil image?
    Neither of us have sil image with our lowly ultra-d's

    Anyway one thing that's always concerned me is this-



    Do you have that? I'm wondering if my drivers for the chipset might not be installed correctly. BTW I told the Maxtor guy that the firmware didn't help, he told me they've done all they can and I should make sure the controller is up to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman
    Neither of us have sil image with our lowly ultra-d's

    Anyway one thing that's always concerned me is this-



    Do you have that? I'm wondering if my drivers for the chipset might not be installed correctly. BTW I told the Maxtor guy that the firmware didn't help, he told me they've done all they can and I should make sure the controller is up to date.
    those are the stock Intel ones which I loaded a couple of minutes ago and made no diff.

    Just install latest NF4 drivers (6.70)

    or right click them --> Update drivers --> no windows update ---> updated from list/specified loc. --> chose the ones


    btw is the Maxtor your windows drive? how many times does the blue thing complete a bar? mine usually does it in 6-9.. (usually 7 or 8)
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