That's interesting to know, thanks pcdoc1. Thankfully my x2's are retail

Similarly to you. I mentioned this in another thread, my asus premium gives me a higher overclock than the expert on same voltage. Obviously limted bios and no special vid on the premium. I've never used a multimeter before so didn't actually check whether these were real readings.

In addition two other guys here in Thailand, with same stepping chips from the same retailer, are getting better OC's on their ultra-d's. I know that isn't saying anything necessarily.

Sorry to go a bit off topic ie.e dfi expert - death, but if these experts are dodgy then alternatives have to be considered. Including MSI

RLM