XS Yonah T2600ES competition !!!

[GoriLLakoS]

MAXMEM and RAMdisk are not main theme on this thread,
so I don't want to describe details here, but I must say,
"RAMdisk is effective for SuperPI, especially in 8M or above, I believe."
And about MAXMEM, it's mainly used for RAMdisk now.
You say "expensive"...mine is "free", i.e. the RAMdisk by free software.
You can download it from the URL below:
http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/winnt/h.../se108927.html
Yes it's a japanese free software, but don't blame me...
My usual setting is:
<img src="http://222.151.185.113/c-board/file/ERAM_setting_usual.png">
This setting gives 393216kB RAMdisk as Z: drive.
The disk image area is derived from main memory,
so we need to restrict amount of memory used for system,
by MAXMEM description in boot.ini.

In early times, MAXMEM itself was effective for SuperPI...
...yes SuperPI, but especially for SuperPI Japanese version.
I don't know why it is so, but very effective on the system using Celeron.
Now, for SuperPI mod1.4/1.5XS, MAXMEM itself has little effect, I think.

Hello Kyosen!!!

I tried to download the above programm but i think that i have to register first and then download it....but i don't know any Japanesse....

Could you give us a link with a direct download???

At MAXMEM what do you use???105?

[Waus-mod]

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA000363/test/index.htm

now we need to know how to run it :P

[GoriLLakoS]

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA000363/test/index.htm

now we need to know how to run it :P

Hey ,you know japanesse man????:P:

Τhanks...x100

[Waus-mod]

naaa just entered the program in google

I found a guide to setup, but i really dont know japanese

[Waus-mod]

ok... google allmighty

http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

[kiwi]

Why do you need exactly this ramdisk soft? There are many available and not in japanese And BTW, source is available, might as well translate a few label lines and recompile

[Waus-mod]

So wich software is english? url?

[kiwi]

http://www.cenatek.com/product_ramdisk.cfm
http://www.ramdisk.tk/

I was using cenatek myself but it has 30 days (or 15 don't remember ) limit

Check also this by microsoft
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q257405/

[kyosen]

> T2600 ES stepping of 4
> Shipping stepping 8 on T2300 Retail SL8VR
--
Good point of view, FUGGER
I checked both T2600(ES) and T2300 at 1.66G(x10 multiplier),
and noticed that stepping:4 is slightly slower than stepping:8, regretfully
SuperPI-mod1.5XS 1M time
T2600(ES): 35.313s
T2300: 35.156s
Screenshots are here:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-boar...ne;no=4289;id=
The difference is about 0.4%...How do you feel it!?...
I feel that it's "desperate" difference,
so now I've got a retail/regular T2600

> At MAXMEM what do you use???105?
--
I think that MAXMEM itself has little/no effect for mod-PI1.4/1.5XS,
though I still use it as tuning purpose for 1M running.
Suitable MAXMEM value may vary for each systems...
...it depends on whether you disable needless services or not, etc.
But I must say again, Now, main purpose of MAXMEM is
reserving memory for RAMdisk, at least in my case.

> now we need to know how to run it
--
I don't know exact menu names in English Windows,
but I hope this instruction is helpful for you!

Go "Control Panel", and start "Add Hardware".
Choose "Yes, already connected" and go
"Add new hardware device"
"Install hardware selected from list"
"Show all devices"
"Use disk"
and choose ERAM2000.INF file.
Once rebooted, then go to Control Panel again.
You should find ERAM menu there.

[metro.cl]

did anyone put them under ln2??

[NiCKE^]

So there's no stepping 8 on retails chips?

[Dumo]

T2600 box...

[over@locker886]

hi

yonah has upper multipler lock?

Because I want T2300, but only 10x multipler

[Charles Wirth]

Yes, cant go past the default top multiple.

[over@locker886]

Yes, cant go past the default top multiple.

also ES series?

other:
What different ES 4/8 stepping on pictures?

thx

[NiCKE^]

ES got unlucked upwards also I believe.

[althes]

The retail ones don have upward unlocked just downwards am I correct

[NiCKE^]

Yes, retail got downwards and ES both up and down :P

[over@locker886]

Yes, retail got downwards and ES both up and down :P

Thx
I think T2300ES bestbuy.

[Charles Wirth]

ES cannot go up. I have tried as I have control of multiple now.

[dinos22]

> T2600 ES stepping of 4
> Shipping stepping 8 on T2300 Retail SL8VR
--
Good point of view, FUGGER
I checked both T2600(ES) and T2300 at 1.66G(x10 multiplier),
and noticed that stepping:4 is slightly slower than stepping:8, regretfully
SuperPI-mod1.5XS 1M time
T2600(ES): 35.313s
T2300: 35.156s
Screenshots are here:
http://www.oohashi.jp/c-board/c-boar...ne;no=4289;id=
The difference is about 0.4%...How do you feel it!?...
I feel that it's "desperate" difference,
so now I've got a retail/regular T2600

> At MAXMEM what do you use???105?
--
I think that MAXMEM itself has little/no effect for mod-PI1.4/1.5XS,
though I still use it as tuning purpose for 1M running.
Suitable MAXMEM value may vary for each systems...
...it depends on whether you disable needless services or not, etc.
But I must say again, Now, main purpose of MAXMEM is
reserving memory for RAMdisk, at least in my case.

> now we need to know how to run it
--
I don't know exact menu names in English Windows,
but I hope this instruction is helpful for you!

Go "Control Panel", and start "Add Hardware".
Choose "Yes, already connected" and go
"Add new hardware device"
"Install hardware selected from list"
"Show all devices"
"Use disk"
and choose ERAM2000.INF file.
Once rebooted, then go to Control Panel again.
You should find ERAM menu there.

how does the T2300 OC?

it would be nice to see the motherboards supporting these chip run high FSB......400Mhz say .......hehehe

what is the max FSB you managed on the MSI.....



i was just going throught the chat pages and ran into a pic.....looks good this MSI

[M.Beier]

The german stores says AOpen will be availible on 28th, thats today... If its just another lye.. Which it probaly is, Im cheesmate - Cant go to a lan due to bloody slow motherboard manifactures...- Man I'd wish abit or asus would bring a REAL board...

lieferbar in 1 Tag
(am 28.03.2006 um 01:52 Uhr)
I'll give them a phonecall tomorrow..

[Pedro Rocha]

The german stores says AOpen will be availible on 28th, thats today... If its just another lye.. Which it probaly is, Im cheesmate - Cant go to a lan due to bloody slow motherboard manifactures...- Man I'd wish abit or asus would bring a REAL board...

lieferbar in 1 Tag
(am 28.03.2006 um 01:52 Uhr)
I'll give them a phonecall tomorrow..

Yes true, availabe in 2-3 days here

But they are quite expensive 270 Euros - around 330$ USD

Sorry if miss any good review of AOpen i975Xa-YDG around ???

[M.Beier]

Hmm, there's some out, but I dont know which is still classified, but give it a shot in the XIP lounge, I bet you'll get all the featback you'll need

Im off to bed now, its 3:17AM in DK..

[Salkcin]

Yes, retail got downwards and ES both up and down :P

The retails got the multiplier unlocked downwards by Enhanced Speedstep technology where Engineering Samples have it unlocked on a lower hardware level - and only downwards like the retails.
In my experience lowering the multiplier by Enhanced Speedstep can give you bugged scores and games running out of timesynch (runs faster). Not suitable for 24/7 use... can be usefull for some benchmarks.

Yes true, availabe in 2-3 days here

But they are quite expensive 270 Euros - around 330$ USD

Sorry if miss any good review of AOpen i975Xa-YDG around ???

There been some previews from Asia on the green PCB samples of the motherboard - max FSB = 265MHz FSB (by jumper).
Toms Hardware made a test of the "final" black PCB version, but did no overclocking in the test.
Hardware.no (Norwiegan text) also did a test of the black PCB version and did some overclocking - they reached 199MHz wich they claim is maximum (maybe they overseen the jumper found in the japanese preview?).

- http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/03/...top/index.html
- http://www.hardware.no/tester/hovedk...xa-ydg/24488/2
- http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0601/re...le.asp?id=4894