DFI Expertâ€¦.. Enough is enough!

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 01:09 PM

DFI Expertâ€¦.. Enough is enough!

Now Iâ€™m tickedâ€¦. Shut down the box today at noon to run a few service calls. Got back an hour later, hit the switch and no lights, fans, pump, nothingâ€¦ Pulled the OZC 520 and in plugged up another PS, still nothing. Replaced the video card, replaced the ram, disconnected all devices and cleared CMOS, still nothing. Replace the opty with another opty, still nothing.

Grabbed another board (MSI) and put the box back together, put in all the original parts and still nothing. Pulled the original opty and replaced it and now all is well.

Set the expert up on the bench with a working 4800 and some tccd and the board is dead. So for the second time in about six weeks, both a new 170 and an expert are history! This is exactly what happened last time. Screw these guys this is ridiculous.

I canâ€™t wait to see AMDâ€™s response, theyâ€™re not gonna be thrill â€˜bout replacing another 170. And Iâ€™m sure Monarch isnâ€™t going to be thrill â€˜bout the expertâ€¦

Guess itâ€™s time to look closer at the 580 optionsâ€¦

Thanks for letting me rant. Damn Iâ€™m pissed!!!!

**Mickey Padge** · 03-09-2006, 01:17 PM

I feel for you man, that just sucks

Once bitten, twice shy.

**oicurafox2000** · 03-09-2006, 01:28 PM

Hmmph,I've always seen you sticking up for DFi in every thread too.

Anyways,I thought this was standard procedure for most DFi boards. You know,unplug this,don't take battery out,do this,don't do this,run around in a circle singing "I'm a maniac" and thats just to start that darn thing.

I was burned twice. First time shame on them,second time shame on me. Never again. Sorry for your loss,better luck next time.

**perry_78** · 03-09-2006, 01:51 PM

I think the sapphire boards are looking quite good to be honest.

As long as I dont have to run in circles (lack of space in my room) I'm happy. Thank god my nf4 sli-dr only requires half an hour of that upon cpu change, then its only ~1min.

I just called back my order on the expert, cant be bothered with this mess. Will go for the 580s instead.

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 01:55 PM

Yeah, I think you may be right on the sapphire boards... Seems like the options right now are pretty slim... The Asus 580 board appears to have some bios problems and the DFI 580 is now out of the question.

**stone_cold_Jimi** · 03-09-2006, 01:55 PM

That's really not very good. I'm using a AA0 Expert and have a AB0 to sell... at this rate, nobody will want it.

At least I can swap it out when the AA0 dies taking everything with it.

**ben805** · 03-09-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by pcdoc1

DFI Expert….. Enough is enough!

Now I’m ticked…. Shut down the box today at noon to run a few service calls. Got back an hour later, hit the switch and no lights, fans, pump, nothing… Pulled the OZC 520 and in plugged up another PS, still nothing. Replaced the video card, replaced the ram, disconnected all devices and cleared CMOS, still nothing. Replace the opty with another opty, still nothing.

Grabbed another board (MSI) and put the box back together, put in all the original parts and still nothing. Pulled the original opty and replaced it and now all is well.

Set the expert up on the bench with a working 4800 and some tccd and the board is dead. So for the second time in about six weeks, both a new 170 and an expert are history! This is exactly what happened last time. Screw these guys this is ridiculous.

I can’t wait to see AMD’s response, they’re not gonna be thrill ‘bout replacing another 170. And I’m sure Monarch isn’t going to be thrill ‘bout the expert…

Guess it’s time to look closer at the 580 options…

Thanks for letting me rant. Damn I’m pissed!!!!

man sorry to hear about your ordeal, as soon as you get your expert back from RMA if I were you I would sell it, don't bother to open or test it, maybe give the previous gen DFI-SLI DR a try, or perhaps consider Venus? hope that expert didn't take out your 170...

**Diverge** · 03-09-2006, 02:29 PM

Just don't power off your dfi boards - i guess that is why i've been lucky so far. It kinda scares me knowing there is issuses with them killing cpu's upon reboots/power_on's... don't want to loose my opty 170 some day as well - it's oem too.

sucks about your cpu though. i guess rma and sell the mb and go with something else.

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 02:38 PM

Yeah it took out the 170.... Explaining this to AMD again may be a project. The last return I sold to Major, thankfully he hasn't any problem with it. The next return will immediately go out the door also. Your Venus post look real good but I'm of a mind right now to not screw with another DFI product of any kind. I wonâ€™t even tolerate a emply DFI box in my shop at this point. Screw â€˜emâ€¦

Regards-

**masterofpuppets** · 03-09-2006, 02:56 PM

DFI messed up majorly with the Expert, they better learn their lesson for their next release.

**NickS** · 03-09-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by pcdoc1

DFI Expert….. Enough is enough!

Now I’m ticked…. Shut down the box today at noon to run a few service calls. Got back an hour later, hit the switch and no lights, fans, pump, nothing… Pulled the OZC 520 and in plugged up another PS, still nothing. Replaced the video card, replaced the ram, disconnected all devices and cleared CMOS, still nothing. Replace the opty with another opty, still nothing.

Grabbed another board (MSI) and put the box back together, put in all the original parts and still nothing. Pulled the original opty and replaced it and now all is well.

Set the expert up on the bench with a working 4800 and some tccd and the board is dead. So for the second time in about six weeks, both a new 170 and an expert are history! This is exactly what happened last time. Screw these guys this is ridiculous.

I can’t wait to see AMD’s response, they’re not gonna be thrill ‘bout replacing another 170. And I’m sure Monarch isn’t going to be thrill ‘bout the expert…

Guess it’s time to look closer at the 580 options…

Thanks for letting me rant. Damn I’m pissed!!!!

Ack. That sux man. All I have to say now is, MSI FTW. (Because I'm in love with MSI board's haha.)

Go buy yourself a Diamond Plus.

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 04:46 PM

Well I'm running the same board you are for the time being... (MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum) The Diamond Plus may be OK but I'm thinking ATI...

**thunderstruck!** · 03-09-2006, 05:15 PM

What revision of the expert did you have?

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 05:56 PM

thunderstruck! - Sorry I don't remember and it's not here with me... I'll post back on it tomorrow.

**003** · 03-09-2006, 06:44 PM

None of my two ultra-d's have ever killed anything or otherwise damaged anything. None of them have ever had any problems posting either, even with a heavy overclock and high temps. There are a lot of reports of the experts killing cpu's,

**Charloz24** · 03-09-2006, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by 003

None of my two ultra-d's have ever killed anything or otherwise damaged anything. None of them have ever had any problems posting either, even with a heavy overclock and high temps. There are a lot of reports of the experts killing cpu's,

Same here! I have 2 NF4 Ultra-D and they run perfectly! I never had better motherboard than those 2. With more than one year of use, this mb beat my favorite that was Abit NF7........

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 06:58 PM

Thanks guys, just makes ya wonder though what Ultra-D's have to do with this thread...

**Major** · 03-09-2006, 07:09 PM

Sorry about your troubles pcdoc1 !

I've not had any problems with my Expert, but everytime I come home and the comp has shut down I get a funky feeling in my gut

but its always booted back up. There has to be something up with all the reports of dead gear.

**pcdoc1** · 03-09-2006, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Major

..... but everytime I come home and the comp has shut down I get a funky feeling in my gut

but its always booted back up. There has to be something up with all the reports of dead gear.

I know the feeling and I'm not dealing with it anymore... The thing is I don't run big OC's, high voltages, or really pound the box. I wasn't testing, benching, or screwing around with anything. Had the box on for a few hours checking email, doing a little surfing and hanging out here. Shut it down and walked away, an hour later I hit the switch and you know the rest of the story. It's been damn stable since I rebuilt it a few months ago. And there's no common denominator as when I did this rebuild I switched to the OCZ520, your HZ's, and of course the new 170... So I think I just leave DFI for the REAL MEN around here and see if I can get an old Commodore or Tandy out on the net...

See ya-

**palehorse** · 03-10-2006, 09:19 AM

woohoo! I want to see an OC'd commodore 64!

**The Stilt** · 03-10-2006, 12:02 PM

Just killed my FX-60 with A00 rev. Expert.
UCCC sticks and 1.45V vcore, so theories about too big voltage differences are something that I wipe my ass with.

**pcdoc1** · 03-10-2006, 12:20 PM

Mine was also A00, UCCC sticks and 1.50.... But damn I'm sure it's not a DFI problem!

**thegoatman** · 03-10-2006, 12:46 PM

good thing I've got an AB0 with no visible problems/flaws. Anyone had problems with an AB0? I haven't started OCing yet...

**stone_cold_Jimi** · 03-10-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by thegoatman

good thing I've got an AB0 with no visible problems/flaws. Anyone had problems with an AB0? I haven't started OCing yet...

I ran my x2 4600 in my AB0 for a few hours no problem (pretty meaningless), but I read some Russian guy getting his stuff eaten by one. Can't find a link though.

**NickS** · 03-10-2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by pcdoc1

Well I'm running the same board you are for the time being... (MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum) The Diamond Plus may be OK but I'm thinking ATI...

Well hell this is a great board imo. Can do VERY high HTT, has ok voltage options, and has a good ram config.

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