Really? Damn... I had a set drop dead at 3.5Crap just randomly dies.
Really? Damn... I had a set drop dead at 3.5Crap just randomly dies.
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dont confuse CH-UTT with BH-UTT.
CH cannot handle volts and will eventually die![]()
All along the watchtower the watchmen watch the eternal return.
ehm.... a pair of mine is CH 'cos they need 3,1v to do 200 2-2-2 and over 3,5v they are not fully stable....guys you are really making me think i'm lucky! (ehm... my bad english.... dunno if the grammatic is right...)
Your stuff is PC4000 Redline - UTT-CH not UTT-BH5...Originally Posted by afireinside
EDIT: STEvil beat me to it
If you had a x11 multi CPU you would know that CPU-Z is wrong in reporting RAM frequency @ x11 div183Originally Posted by largon
I had done a lot of benching with my SD 3700+ and my only conclusion was that there is no "div180" - only div183. Everest shows true RAM speed
It's easy to prove - run any benchmark @ x11 "div180" and x12 div200... Results will be identical...
I also PMed Franck long time ago about it and that's what he said: "The 180MHz setting is more doubtful. In fact I assume that the controller does not allow to go at more than 180, and in your case a 12x ratio would mean 183MHz. So the question is : is the limit 180 or 183 ? I don't know, as this setting is kind of "not official". That's why until now, he left it alone
If you guys want to break RAM speed records for 1M, could you at least try to get a decent timeOriginally Posted by Micutzu
Micutzu, your 1M is very slow for such clocks
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Last edited by bachus_anonym; 02-26-2006 at 11:19 AM.
maybe tomorrowOriginally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER
nope, pm's = disableOriginally Posted by \carting_freak
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maxmem = 87mbOriginally Posted by Zac89
(smaller windows)
maxmem = 104mb about 0,2sek slower.........
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As STEvil and Bachus said, it's BH-UTT and can handle volts like mad. I've ran them at 3.9V 24/7 for some time ... even went a little over 4V for this screenshot:Originally Posted by afireinside
He is probably using Maxmem tweak.Originally Posted by Zac89
i was lead to beleive that this was original bh-5.
those are really good scores, and HIGH volts. good job
Second that!Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
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Can you please show us screens ?Originally Posted by Onepagebook
I've done 289.9Mhz spi1m with my 2x512mo sticks(3.9V)
Did you use active cooling on the RAM for this?
I have same RAM that I haven't really tried to push yet... wonder how they would do in my current rig.... still like the idea of 2 Gb meory for every day stuff
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My oldskool BH-5 doesn't even heat up while running memtest #5 at 3.4v, I know it's nowhere near 3.9v, but I'd expect them to at least get warm. But it's still best to keep a fan over the RAM just to be safe...Originally Posted by jmax_oc
Xm i aggree on that but i cannot explain the fact why OCZ gives warranty for max vdimm for BH-die(GOLD) at 3.1 and for CH-die 3.6(VX).Originally Posted by Micutzu
And so many here run GOLD VX for 3.3-3.4 & above every day and BH for 3.1 @ 240 max for 24/7.
The only reason i am suspect (except the fact that CH need a lot voltage to run at 250 2-2-2 & so OCZ had to support high vdimm in order these sticks to run actually at specs) is to push the market to buy CH more than BH.
My opinion & from old BH experience is that BH can handle up to 4Volts( it is written in Winbond manuals) and CH less (i do not know exactly).
So OCZ should reverse the supported vimm for GOLD VX & GOLD GX.
Last edited by Spyrus; 03-02-2006 at 01:06 AM.
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Both are rated for max 3.6V, but BH is on larger fabrication process (175nm) compared to CH (130nm), that's why it can handle more volts.
Winbond BH
Winbond CH
Many CH -UTT sticks have died becuse of high vdimm but i stil have not seen so many dead old bh5 or bh5 -utt that have died by high vdimm, i have realy triend to kill 1 kit of bh5 -utt with high vdimm but it didnt work(high is 3.9vdimm+)
The most sticks thas die that have Ch - utt is muskin redline pc4000 sticks.
You are right!Originally Posted by Micutzu
By the way i had these manuals a long ago.
Thank u for find them again.
So is there any explanation why GX do not have 3.6Vdimm warranty protection?
Last edited by Spyrus; 03-02-2006 at 01:07 AM.
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do you use different values for 1M/8M/32M runsOriginally Posted by -De$troyeR-
nice results![]()
ICs not equal PCB!Originally Posted by Spyrus
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I had the opinion that both are Brainpower PCB 808.
Am i missing something?
Other manufacters do not have a vdimm limited warranty so can someone put as much as he wants without voiding!!??![]()
Last edited by Spyrus; 03-02-2006 at 03:57 AM.
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What do you mean by "the controller does not allow to go at more than 180.." 200 divider works fine @ 11 multi its true 1:1. Use the A64 mem calculator to calculate the tricky 183 divider. Destroyers mem did "only" run @ 261 Mhz.Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
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Hmm mines get really hot at 3.4v in same test. And my case has one lid open, with 4xcase fans + 1 fan over pwmic + 1 fan over ram. Can it be such a difference between our temps?Originally Posted by masterofpuppets
//EDIT: @beta67: I think that's correct, I run the config in my sig: 289x9, 183 (180 in BIOS) divider and the ram runs at 260mhz. The problem is CPU-Z updates voltages and cpu speeds "on the fly" but to see a divider/mem speed change you have to close and reopen? Not sure, I use too many programs to know exactly how everyone worksFor example:
Smartguardian: reads fan speeds on the fly, needs to reopen to see changes in cpu voltage
MBM5: reads fan speeds, needs to reopen to see changes in cpu voltage and speed
Clockgen: changes htt on the fly, needs to reopen to see changes in mem divider.
The Clockgen+CPU-Z issue is really curious, because you can end being able to screenshot the memory at 300+ 2-2-2-5 if you change the divider to a lower one (lets say 166) and raising HTT in Clockgen without closing Clockgen nor CPU-Z.
I'm currently at work, but I will try to take the screenshot at home and post it to prove (or not, I'm not 100% sure in CPU-Z)
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It runs with 283MHz...! Try to catch this SuperPi with "real" 260MHz... Dunno, why the people do not believe this.Originally Posted by beta67
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11 x 200 = 2200 | 2200 / 183 = 12,02 ~= 12 | 11 x 309 = 3400 | 3400 / 12 = 283,33MHz
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Hi funkflix,Originally Posted by funkflix
check this link:
http://math.gogar.com/athlon64.cgi?htt=307&showtable=1
Destroyer's RAM really "only" ran at ~260MHz. Even though it ran slower than he thought, it's still a impressive result and a really good SP time.
Check the bottom of the page where this quote can be read:
Originally Posted by Gogar's Athlon 64 OC Optimizer
Quote from one of our professors:
"Reality is hiding in the imaginary part."
Nope!Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
SuperPi don't lie.
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If you think so...
Quote from one of our professors:
"Reality is hiding in the imaginary part."
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