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Thread: Gainward 7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB GS GLH in action

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    Talking Gainward 7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB GS GLH in action

    Theinquirer.net recently posted some information and benchmarks from Gainwards upcoming 'Bliss' series. There are two 'Bliss' models available, 6800GS and 7800GT. Unlike the other 6800GS and 7800GT cards these cards come with 512MB of GDDR3 memory installed on board. Because there are no pcb´s available for such memory configuration, Gainward has made their own pcb for these cards.

    Both of the models are available in two flavors.
    The cheapest models are named as "6800GS 'Bliss' 512MB" and 7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB. The high-end models are named as "6800GS 'Bliss' 512MB Golden Sample, Goes-Like-Hell" and "7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB Golden Sample Goes-Like-Hell".

    Compared to the cheaper models the Golden Sample, Goes-Like-Hell versions have following differences:

    - Copper heatsink on GPU (instead of aluminium)
    - Samsung memory (instead of Infineon)
    - Rubycon capacitors (instead of United Chemi-Con aka KZG)
    - Higher clock frequencies, 7800GT: 450MHz (GPU, instead of 400MHz), 1300MHz (Memory, instead of 1000MHz).
    - Higher clock frequencies, 6800GS: 485MHz (GPU, instead of 425MHz), 1300MHz (Memory, instead of 1000MHz).


    Few days ago I received few 7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB Golden Sample, Goes-Like-Hell retail cards.

    As usual I had to rip the cards apart and see how will they run.


    The card look quite different than any other 7800 series card.




    After stripping the card, the differences could be seen more easily.




    The most visible difference is the power regulation.
    The power regulation look like it have been loaned from a motherboard..
    Which is a very good thing




    A closer look to the memory chips show that they are manufactured by Samsung and rated to 1.4ns(!) / 1430MHz



    Time to put the heatsinks back on and start the testing.

    I wanted to start testing with stock cooling and without any mods.

    Even without any modifications, this test session wasn´t the easiest.
    After installing the drivers I saw some artifacts in the windows loading bar.
    When I got to the desktop I saw a pop-up notification which said that there isn´t enough power available for the cards to maintain functionality.
    First I thought that it was somekind of bug, but when I lowered the vcore voltage of the cpu, I didn´t see any artifacts or pop-up notifications after bootup. Then I raised the vcore back up, and there was the artifacts and the notification again. I realised that my OCZ Powerstream 600W simply couldn´t supply enough power for two 7800GT cards and dual core cpu, since the psu has two 12V rails (18A + 20A).

    After changing in my Tagan 580W 2Force (U22) psu, the problems went away. Tagan can supply 35A to 12V rail in combined mode. That is well enough for pretty much anything

    After solving the psu problem, I was able to run 3DMark05 thru at 520MHz (GPU) and 1460MHz (Memory) with VERY minor artifacts. This is a fairly good result with stock cooling (which may have been enhanced little bit with cold Finnish winter breeze )



    http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1835371

    The best thing with these card is the price.
    The end user prices for these cards here in Finland are 365€ (430$) for the 7800GT 'Bliss' 512MB and 393€ (463$) for the Golden Sample, Goes-Like-Hell model.

    btw. The cheaper model also has 1.4ns memory chips (made by Infineon)

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    1,4ns that s what i saw first, i thought wow nice

    looks pretty good that card. i m getting a gaming rig for a friend maybe i ll take this card he want the pc to be oced some bit

    seemslike its a very good card!

    thx 4 sharing

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    Looks nice. Great ram chips there.
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    Single card score would be nice

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    Last edited by perkam; 02-26-2006 at 05:52 AM.

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    Table breaker, nice pics but even at 1280x1024 monitor res it breaks the table, try shrinking the ss down a bit.

    Damn nice card there though

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    damn nice power design!

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    Looks great These could take my GT records down easy...
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    nice ram :O
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    oo i wonder how those 6800GS's bench
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    In case I just flat out missed it what is MSRP

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    I have had my eyes on that card for a while...I assumed it would rock coz the need for their own PCB...but they ahve gotten a step further and added some nice powerregs and those Samsung mems...

    This will be an awesome OC'er, give it a voltmod and some cooling...

    ..good price as well, will hold for a while this one...gonna order I believe..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
    In case I just flat out missed it what is MSRP
    Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price

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    I just got a ocz 600 also and planned going SLI with my 7800GT and 170 opty, U think the ocz is gonna gimme a hard time?

    This is really bad news for me...
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    what's the lowdown on voltdmodding them?

    Can you do a BIOS voltmod, for a start? That would be awesome, as that would probably take you up to 550 core, and on a stock 78gt, that would be out of this world.

    Anyway, very nice results.
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    What about scores with one card? Can you do some tests?
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    nicely done by Gainward
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    Single card results will follow soon.
    This day is hallowed to the ice hockey final game...
    Maybe this time Finland can defeat the notorious Tre Kronor ("Three Crowns") of Sweden

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    So it's not a GT is it? Why call it a GT when it's clocked as a GTX and has the same ram as a GTX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks
    So it's not a GT is it? Why call it a GT when it's clocked as a GTX and has the same ram as a GTX?
    Because it still has 20 pipes ?
    Looking forward to the single card benches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stilt
    Single card results will follow soon.
    This day is hallowed to the ice hockey final game...
    Maybe this time Finland can defeat the notorious Tre Kronor ("Three Crowns") of Sweden
    Hah! ...not this time dude

    ..now you get on with that OC
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    Something ain´t right with these single card results.

    In 3DMark06 this card scores 4940pts when it´s clocked to 510MHz (GPU) and 1450MHz (Memory). With 2.7GHz Athlon X2 cpu even 256MB 7800GT can defeat this score with lower clocks.

    It looks like 3DMark06 hates these cards for some reason.
    I even restored the operating system from a ghost image, but there was no change in the score.

    Also in 3DMark05 a single card scores just over 9k with 520MHz / 1460MHz clocks...

    In single, these cards look just as good as Finnish game did in the ice hockey final game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willis
    maybe the ram timings arent that tight on the 1.4ns ddr
    Just checked them with Nibitor.
    A reference 7800GT 256MB with 2.0ns chips use excatly the same timing that this card does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stilt
    Single card results will follow soon.
    This day is hallowed to the ice hockey final game...
    Maybe this time Finland can defeat the notorious Tre Kronor ("Three Crowns") of Sweden
    nice game, just retourned home, great match, the result is only a matter of luck, both teams played great!

    btw, nice card...can you compare it to a "normal" 7800gt?

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    Those gainward 7800GT GS's look and very nice score on them.

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