First Look: Teamgroup 2x512MB PC4000 BH-5

[Viss]

Me bad, didnt look that wel first time. Wonder what that H stands for, deff not High i guess

[s7e9h3n]

Wonder what thet H means, deff not high i guess

Maybe it does mean High.............er Volts Required. lol.....

[Lastviking]

s7e9h3n:

You are slow in the testing , we want to see more , i found some thing diffrent in SPD thing from my and yours sticks. I got Part Number: A and yours are P

[metro.cl]

test them up 260 aint impresive for me.

i'll try to get one of this, but is hard to buy them from Chile. Maybe i can get some to review for our site i'll try to contact team group

[s7e9h3n]

s7e9h3n:

You are slow in the testing , we want to see more , i found some thing diffrent in SPD thing from my and yours sticks. I got Part Number: A and yours are P

Hey...a person needs to sleep at least a little - I only got 2 or 3 hours of sleep before I woke up again this morning and am about to flip the "on" switch on my autocascade as we speak......

[eviLRuLeZ]

waiting for your results

[s7e9h3n]

test them up 260 aint impresive for me.

i'll try to get one of this, but is hard to buy them from Chile. Maybe i can get some to review for our site i'll try to contact team group

Ok, maybe I'm taking this a little slow. I just thought that others would like to see how the chips clock in increments. Personally if I wasn't reviewing these sticks, I'd try for 270mhz out of the box. So maybe I'll try a larger jump today.....

[eviLRuLeZ]

I think you will reach 260-265 without any problems..
Also, are you sure that they're rated DDR500 @ 3.3v ? (I mean constructor certification)

thanks and a have a nice moment playing with this memory

[Cpt Twitchy]

Ok, maybe I'm taking this a little slow. I just thought that others would like to see how the chips clock in increments. Personally if I wasn't reviewing these sticks, I'd try for 270mhz out of the box. So maybe I'll try a larger jump today.....

I actually like how you are going in increments. Showing what ram can do at a mere 3.2v is really impressive to me as thats a reasonably safe 24/7 voltage for bh5. I also just want to let others know to be patient. I alreay now what these sticks are capable of and trust me, its worth the wait.

[bachus_anonym]

It looks like a nice pair of UTT-BH5 you got there, Steven I'm not too sure If it's so good to pass 32M @ 270MHz, 3.55v and those timmings, though... That would take some kit

Let's see If your kit can match OPB's one

[s7e9h3n]

I actually like how you are going in increments. Showing what ram can do at a mere 3.2v is really impressive to me as thats a reasonably safe 24/7 voltage for bh5. I also just want to let others know to be patient. I alreay now what these sticks are capable of and trust me, its worth the wait.

Sorry for the wait everyone, it's taken me awhile to figure out this kit. The main issue was my non-experience with UTT IC's. Contrary to my initial expectations, I've come to find that UTT BH5's don't share identical characteristics of timings and values as original BH5's. It took me quite some time to narrow down what was causing my errors, but I think I've got it now and finally am getting a semblance of consistency in the runs. Hopefully I'll have some results to show relatively soon........

And @ DogsX2: Maybe

[s7e9h3n]

It looks like a nice pair of UTT-BH5 you got there, Steven I'm not too sure If it's so good to pass 32M @ 270MHz, 3.55v and those timmings, though... That would take some kit

Let's see If your kit can match OPB's one

What did it take for his kit to do 270?

[bachus_anonym]

What did it take for his kit to do 270?

I have not seen 270MHz, but he has a screenshot of 277MHz 32M @ 3.7v (MBM). It's the best result in BH-5/UTT sticky. Pretty impressive kit, I have to admit

[G3n3R@1]

looks like some very nice chips indeed

[s7e9h3n]

I have not seen 270MHz, but he has a screenshot of 277MHz 32M @ 3.7v (MBM). It's the best result in BH-5/UTT sticky. Pretty impressive kit, I have to admit

Wow...that is quite a serious run...but what I'm curious about is why his 32m time is so "high" @ that speed. Compare my run above @ 13x260 (yes I know I'm running ~50mhz faster), but I would think his time @ 277FSB should at least destroy my result. Makes you wonder how advantageous is it to slack your timings soley to run @ a higher FSB. Personally, I'd rather pump the sticks with as much voltage as they'll take and run tight timings than reduce timings to run a high FSB......

[bachus_anonym]

...but what I'm curious about is why his 32m time is so "high" @ that speed. Compare my run above @ 13x260 (yes I know I'm running ~50mhz faster), but I would think his time @ 277FSB should at least destroy my result.

Nah, I think OPB's result is about right... This is the ABSOLUTE MAX I managed to run 32M at with UTT-BH5 kit I have here. At this pace, every 1MHz on RAM and 10MHz on CPU gives me about 4s. So, If I was able to run his 277MHz (which I'm not) then we would both have about same time... But I'm pretty sure, that in order to run at around 270MHz you will have to loosen TRFC a bit: 13 or 14... Not that it really matters for performance, but just makes it more stable, I think...

Carry on, Steven...

[s7e9h3n]

Nah, I think OPB's result is about right... This is the ABSOLUTE MAX I managed to run 32M at with UTT-BH5 kit I have here. At this pace, every 1MHz on RAM and 10MHz on CPU gives me about 4s. So, If I was able to run his 277MHz (which I'm not) then we would both have about same time... But I'm pretty sure, that in order to run at around 270MHz you will have to loosen TRFC a bit: 13 or 14... Not that it really matters for performance, but just makes it more stable, I think...

Carry on, Steven...

Hehehe...that's one of the main differences I've found between old BH5's and this new UTT stuff. It seems as you push the speed with these sticks, you in turn have to run a looser TRFC. With old BH5's that wasn't necessary:
Old Skool Twinmos BH5's.....
EDIT: IMAGESHACK SUX SO I TOOK THE PICTURE OUT

[coop]

Thanks for taking the time s7e9h3n to show us these and piont out differences. Alot of demos of their various products but no availability for a large customer base. Any word of that possibility here in states? "Yes, I know this just not really good for that However, here is what their PM told me:

"We are now doing our best to fix this situation, we are new but we only have the best QA procedure for customer; we will have retailer start carrying our products next week certainly at computergiants.com; we appreciate your warm concern.

Happy luna year."
That was from last week. Still waiting, anxiously.

[shuRe]

ddr520 w/ 3.3vdimm, thats nice, it should scream with 3.7 through it, what about some preliminary results without timings tweaked...

[eviLRuLeZ]

Thanks for taking the time s7e9h3n to show us these and piont out differences. Alot of demos of their various products but no availability for a large customer base. Any word of that possibility here in states? "Yes, I know this just not really good for that However, here is what their PM told me:

"We are now doing our best to fix this situation, we are new but we only have the best QA procedure for customer; we will have retailer start carrying our products next week certainly at computergiants.com; we appreciate your warm concern.

Happy luna year."
That was from last week. Still waiting, anxiously.

it's the china new year and vacancy, that's why they didn't answer you

[s7e9h3n]

ddr520 w/ 3.3vdimm, thats nice, it should scream with 3.7 through it, what about some preliminary results without timings tweaked...

Not sure what you mean by "results without timings tweaked" Isn't the whole point of this exercise to tweak the timings as much as possible to get a decent score?
In all honesty, I could have spent much more time playing with timings if I wanted to get a lower times, but at this point, I'm starting to feel a little burnt out from staring at the monitor for hours on end.....Here's the last few results for today - I really need to take a nap These runs were a little more difficult to figure out than the first few since we're getting to the speeds where MOST BH5 tops out. What still impresses me about these sticks is the fact that they're able to do run these speeds @ voltages comparable to some of the best sticks of Bh5 I've ever seen. Please - before you decide to proclaim that you have sticks that can run tighter timings @ lower voltages - take a good look at the timings actually being run and ask yourself if you really can duplicate those settings/speeds @ that Vmem......

DDR530, 3.4 +.03Vmem, Spi1m


DDR530, 3.5Vmem, Spi8m


DDR530, 3.5Vmem, Spi32m

[s7e9h3n]

It looks like a nice pair of UTT-BH5 you got there, Steven I'm not too sure If it's so good to pass 32M @ 270MHz, 3.55v and those timmings, though... That would take some kit

Let's see If your kit can match OPB's one

I never said 32m stable @ 270mhz, 3.55V I just said "benchable" ..(Don't mind the vcore because I was actually trying something else beforehand and was just too lazy to reset)

DDR540, 3.5 +.03 Vmem, Spi1m



That wraps up the screens for today as my eyes feel like they're going to fall out of my face atm. For comparison's sake, here's a couple of my past screenshots using the same cpu with my 2x512mb Twinmos old school BH5:

[Onepagebook]

well , nice job,
BUT I think 3.68 v can easily do 275..
figure out the problem first dude

don't copy michael's over-voltage type,
\that's just kill your PSU, ram and cpu gradually
you guys can never trust , but whenever all your components die
just don't cry for hunger.

[Cpt Twitchy]

well , nice job,
BUT I think 3.68 v can easily do 275..
figure out the problem first dude

don't copy michael's over-voltage type,
\that's just kill your PSU, ram and cpu gradually
you guys can never trust , but whenever all your components die
just don't cry for hunger.

Hello Master OnePageBook

Thanks for tips on how to kill everything. I will be sure not to follow them

[Lastviking]

hmmmmmm..