A Call for peace, respect and tranquility

[Entity_Razer]

UC, let me make this very simple so EVERYONE can understand this.

I asked for a clean and gentlemen like behavior. Now I expect that from EVERYONE including long time members such as you Shmaa and you. hell even DDTUNG would get a hard time from me if he pushed it.

Keep it clean and if you have HARD proof, and I do mean HARD proof, undeniable, I suggest you lay'm down at the post I made "DPC answers" and link to it here.

[UCmajewski]

UC, let me make this very simple so EVERYONE can understand this.

I asked for a clean and gentlemen like behavior. Now I expect that from EVERYONE including long time members such as you Shmaa and you. hell even DDTUNG would get a hard time from me if he pushed it.

Keep it clean and if you have HARD proof, and I do mean HARD proof, undeniable, I suggest you lay'm down at the post I made "DPC answers" and link to it here.

what? Ok my fishy in cowland post ..... thats hard proof and I laid it down. clean? gentleman behavior? Do the cows practice that kind of behavior? No I think not .... I think everyone on this team / this project should be mad as hell at the cows. Now is not the time for restraint / good behavior what ever that means..... its the time for action.

[DDTUNG]

While I agree with Entity that we should keep our discussions generally civil, I beg to differ on the need to drop the subject, not until they can give us some reasonable answers.

I have learned over the last few days that many well respect crunchers and teams had quit D2OL because they were convinced someone was cheating. One even went as far as to discussed this with Charles at D2OL, and the answer he got made him quit. While others went away quietly, XS will not. This has been our principle from day one. We cannot be silenced. While I firmly believe that the owner of XS will be fully behind me on this, I am prepared to take full responsibility for the consequences if I am proven wrong. I hope the cows are too.

DDTUNG

[shmaa]

While I agree with Entity that we should keep our discussions generally civil, I beg to differ on the need to drop the subject, not until they can give us some reasonable answers.

I have learned over the last few days that many well respect crunchers and teams had quit D2OL because they were convinced someone was cheating. One even went as far as to discussed this with Charles at D2OL, and the answer he got made him quit. While others went away quietly, XS will not. This has been our principle from day one. We cannot be silenced. While I firmly believe that the owner of XS will be fully behind me on this, I am prepared to take full responsibility for the consequences if I am proven wrong. I hope the cows are too.

DDTUNG

Nicely put, Victor.

I am done with this project anyhow, so I could care less whose buttons I push.

[Entity_Razer]

First of, Victor, check your PM (It's not what you think guys)

Secondly, I do not wish for the subject to be dropped. Neither does ISSCHOTS. If there is a cheater or more in the group DPC WILL kick them from the team. That was made very clear that the DPC crew will NOT tolerate cheating in the team.

reasonable answers have been asked and ISSCHOTS has posted on the DPC forum that it would greaty help if we could even just get a list of computers or the company the guy works for or such info.

And DDT I am ok with how you responds, I do not have ANY objections to it, nor do I have objections to the fact that Charles is behind you, hell if there are cheaters (on whatever team) may they burn. But if I go to the fishy thread I only see speculation there. The only REAL evidence I see is your calculations and the calculations I made in another thread about how many comps averaged etc they would need.

Concerning their docking time, the guy could work for a company which is into the graphical industry so Dual Xeons or Dual or Quad opterons (latest) which could explain for some of the docking times (its a possibility and maybe a longshot but it is possible)


So now PLEASE, I made this thread to ask for some general peace, for the team to take a few DEEP breaths and to restart again. Slinging mud is not going to get NOR XS NOR DPC anywhere.

DPC assured me that if there are cheaters and proof can be given that they WILL be banned from DPC and Excluded from ever entering again.

BTW all involved, CHECK THE FISHY THREAD

[heater918]

CHECK THE FISHY THREAD

Post #1 . Not much speculation there. Granted they could be the most unlucky group of individuals on the planet. Have they responded to this concern yet?

[DDTUNG]

First of, Victor, check your PM (It's not what you think guys)

Secondly, I do not wish for the subject to be dropped. Neither does ISSCHOTS. If there is a cheater or more in the group DPC WILL kick them from the team. That was made very clear that the DPC crew will NOT tolerate cheating in the team.

reasonable answers have been asked and ISSCHOTS has posted on the DPC forum that it would greaty help if we could even just get a list of computers or the company the guy works for or such info.

And DDT I am ok with how you responds, I do not have ANY objections to it, nor do I have objections to the fact that Charles is behind you, hell if there are cheaters (on whatever team) may they burn. But if I go to the fishy thread I only see speculation there. The only REAL evidence I see is your calculations and the calculations I made in another thread about how many comps averaged etc they would need.

Concerning their docking time, the guy could work for a company which is into the graphical industry so Dual Xeons or Dual or Quad opterons (latest) which could explain for some of the docking times (its a possibility and maybe a longshot but it is possible)


So now PLEASE, I made this thread to ask for some general peace, for the team to take a few DEEP breaths and to restart again. Slinging mud is not going to get NOR XS NOR DPC anywhere.

DPC assured me that if there are cheaters and proof can be given that they WILL be banned from DPC and Excluded from ever entering again.

BTW all involved, CHECK THE FISHY THREAD

ER perhaps you should have said this in your first post, which didn't come across this way. No hard feelings. We all live and learn.

When I decided to move my points to FDC and bring this issue to the greater DC community, I had Fugger's support. After that, the more I thought about it, the more convinced I became about my action. Yes, XS D2OL would get hurt, as people did not all know what was going on, and there was no way to inform and explain to all. But in the long run all of DC will benefit. At least now the D2OL admins would have to address the problem quickly. And potential cheaters will think twice. In the end it really doesn't matter who the stats say was #1 at the end of 2005. There is no doubt in my mind who won.

And I would like to thank Fugger for his conviction. It is difficulty for someone in an owner's position to risk the reputation and possibly the commercial interests of his website to do what is right. Even though I am personally prepared to assume all responsibility if proven wrong, it still takes a lot of courage to give me, in his words, 100% support. Fugger I salute you.

To all my teammates at XS D2OL, thank you for bearing with me and my reckless action. I love you all.

I better stop now and get back to work on the situation. It is far from over.

But not before I say Happy New Year to all.

DDTUNG