MUSHKIN PC4000 2gB SMOOKKIINNNNN!!

[phadeout]

It's too bad the quality couldn't stay near like it was on the earlier "good" ones because they absolutely rock. After having a couple weeks to play with them my first set does 2.5-3-2 250-260 and 3-3-2 at 290 stable with any test or game I can throw at them. Second set from a week later can barely do 260 at 3-3-2. Bleh. I won't RMA them as they do meet advertised spec but I'm not real happy about premium $317 RAM that barely overclocks at all. My bad and like always it's buyer beware.

-pickles

Looks like I have one of the "crappier" batches as well, order them not long after Mushkin released them (maybe 3-4 days?). They only do about 258 @ 332. Still testing, but I bet these are not the "perfect" sticks.

[bobov]

I brought my 2GB XP-4000 directly from mushkin. My pairs can only do 260 3d stable @2.6v 3-3-2-8, 265 prime stable but not 3d stable.

Interesting, My kit cannot pass 3dmark2003 @ 265Mhz before, but now I can loop test it @ 265Mhz without problem.

2.6V 265Mhz 3-3-2-8, I'm using charlie's 110% stable setting.

Already loop test it 1 hour, will test overnight.

Don't know why. hehe

[bobov]

Interesting, My kit cannot pass 3dmark2003 @ 265Mhz before, but now I can loop test it @ 265Mhz without problem.

2.6V 265Mhz 3-3-2-8, I'm using charlie's 110% stable setting.

Already loop test it 1 hour, will test overnight.

Don't know why. hehe

Also pass 3dmark2005 @ 265Mhz 2.6V 3-3-2-8, CPU 265MhzX11 @ 1.45V.

Edit: I ordered my kit 11/28 from mushkin, so the late week batch are not all "crappier"? Havn't found the MAX yet.

Edit: I think I open my mouth too early. Failed loop 3dmark2005 test @ 265Mhz.

[FlyBoyGeo]

I ordered mine the day after Thanksgiving and am at a 3D stable wall of 260. Even if I loosen timings or change voltages nothing will pass 3dMark 01, 03, or 05.

[bobov]

I ordered mine the day after Thanksgiving and am at a 3D stable wall of 260. Even if I loosen timings or change voltages nothing will pass 3dMark 01, 03, or 05.

Well my kit can pass 3dMark 01/03/05 one time test, but cannot pass loop 3dmark05 test. Increase vdimm to 2.7v or loosen timings doesn't help. 260Mhz is all they can do.

[guess2098]

So either G.Skill is buying IC"s for cheaper than what Mushkin/OCZ can get in the USA,

no matter you are a taiwan company or US company, chip maker will sell you the same price! like the resellers around the world buy CPU from AMD driectly, the price AMD gives are all the same (of cuz discount for more items)

[JNav89GT]

no matter you are a taiwan company or US company, chip maker will sell you the same price! like the resellers around the world buy CPU from AMD driectly, the price AMD gives are all the same (of cuz discount for more items)

I don't believe that!
I think some makers get breaks no matter what u think

[NinjaWreck]

This sounds exactly like the same thing that happened with the High Performance Blues PC3200 2x1Gb set that used BE-5 chips. The first batch was great reaching 250+ 2.5-3-2-6 for me. Then the next batches would barely do 230mhz at those timings.

[SVTSnake]

Been trying yo figure out the sweet spot for me all day today. 265 is definitely a no go! Locks up instantly when launchin any 3d app, and sporatic Windows lock-ups. Thought at 1st it was my video cards, so I backed down the OC on them to 475/1275, but still the same lockups. Then I swapped to running 306*9 with a 166 divider to get DDR500 and now everything is smooth as silk. No stuttering while running the 3d benches! Settings on these puppies are very finicky to say the least!

More testing...

[Capt_Caveman]

Argh!!! Mine should be here on tuesday. I was hoping that these would have a little bit of oc headroom.

[cronic]

well i was ready to pull the plug on the redlines but now i don't know. I just had a set of ballistix die in 2 weeks and rma them and sold the new with the thought of getting the redlines. what to do. what to do.

[JNav89GT]

Been trying yo figure out the sweet spot for me all day today. 265 is definitely a no go! Locks up instantly when launchin any 3d app, and sporatic Windows lock-ups. Thought at 1st it was my video cards, so I backed down the OC on them to 475/1275, but still the same lockups. Then I swapped to running 306*9 with a 166 divider to get DDR500 and now everything is smooth as silk. No stuttering while running the 3d benches! Settings on these puppies are very finicky to say the least!

More testing...

tref can help with the 3d
but it's totally trial and error
I've found 3120 and 4708 to be best, but each system might be diff.

Can make diff of a few mhz

[EZClock]

These sticks definetly look good.

[Tibu]

Question is; f most start getting only 260fsb at cas 3, and since the g.skill ZX have a very high likelyhood of doing 260 at cas3; Why would I want these sticks over the ZX?

Hell, my ZX sticks do 255fsb at cas 2.5-3-2-5 and they only cost me $190.

[NinjaWreck]

Question is; f most start getting only 260fsb at cas 3, and since the g.skill ZX have a very high likelyhood of doing 260 at cas3; Why would I want these sticks over the ZX?

Hell, my ZX sticks do 255fsb at cas 2.5-3-2-5 and they only cost me $190.

I agree. I wouldn't even want these sticks over my Mushkin HP blues.

[JNav89GT]

Question is; f most start getting only 260fsb at cas 3, and since the g.skill ZX have a very high likelyhood of doing 260 at cas3; Why would I want these sticks over the ZX?

Hell, my ZX sticks do 255fsb at cas 2.5-3-2-5 and they only cost me $190.

guaranteed specs maybe?
not every gskill is going 250+

[Bar81]

cool pcb and heatspreaders :P

[NinjaWreck]

guaranteed specs maybe?
not every gskill is going 250+

Well these G.skill are guaranteed to do 250mhz and at only $217.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021

[JCGhz]

Well these G.skill are guaranteed to do 250mhz and at only $217.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021

I ordered those when they were first released.. wouldnt even do rated timings without failing.. needless to say returned. They were above $250 at the time too.

I love my Redlines

[JNav89GT]

Well these G.skill are guaranteed to do 250mhz and at only $217.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231021

apples and oranges!

UCCC vs CE6

Mushkin has PC4000 UCCC too for a couple of $ more than the G.Skill at the egg

[Duonger]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146397

our are cas 3-4-3 also.

Duonger

[sinister1st]

Just ordered some of these. Anyone run them without the heat spreaders? Or should I say are these spreaders going to bake the ram. Im going to be running these on a neo2 and Ill be happy with 245x11 1:1.

If these wont fit under my xp-90 Im going to go ahead a get a big typhoon. Ive ran 4 512s in all dimms and my neo2 likes them so Im not really worried about 2 gigs not working, but I am wondering if these suckers will fit in my slots since they look so close together and how high these rams are?

My old gkill is holding me back and Ive been waiting for 2 gigs to compliment my X2 it was either this or the OCZ EB and Im a first time muskin user. I didnt feel like trying crucials and waitng for or wondering if they would die on me.

By the way these are back in stock at the EGG if no one knows.

[JCGhz]

Just ordered some of these. Anyone run them without the heat spreaders? Or should I say are these spreaders going to bake the ram. Im going to be running these on a neo2 and Ill be happy with 245x11 1:1.

If these wont fit under my xp-90 Im going to go ahead a get a big typhoon. Ive ran 4 512s in all dimms and my neo2 likes them so Im not really worried about 2 gigs not working, but I am wondering if these suckers will fit in my slots since they look so close together and how high these rams are?

My old gkill is holding me back and Ive been waiting for 2 gigs to compliment my X2 it was either this or the OCZ EB and Im a first time muskin user. I didnt feel like trying crucials and waitng for or wondering if they would die on me.

By the way these are back in stock at the EGG if no one knows.

They run relatively cool with HS's.. especially compared to Ballistix which i couldnt even touch they got so hot.. heat is what is killing the ballistix. Im sure you'll be quite pleased with these as ive tried many kits and settled on these. Enjoy

BTW the typhoon is a pita to install but worth it in the end.. hope your xp-90 works out for ya.

[Capt_Caveman]

The new heatspreaders make the ram taller than normal. With a bit of wiggling, I was able to get it under my XP-120.

[sinister1st]

So these should fit and they will run cool I dont really want to take the heat spreaders off but If I have to its a done deal and I was wondering If there was better performance with them off. I have a hairdryer/vacuum blowing on my ram now over the xp-90 and was wondering about active cooling. I think the xp-90 and xp120 are about the same heighth from the cpu?

I hope new egg has a new good batch but Ill be satisfied with 250 or 240 and Ill let you guys know how these run on the neo2 but TO BAD I CANT OPEN THEM TILL CHRISTMAS thanks to my other half. .