65nm presler 950es oc test on rad watercooling, 4.9G done !

[VictorWang]

You might be able to get a Cedar Mill running at 8.5GHz speed (which I doubt), but Intel isn´t going to release a chipset anytime soon that can hit ~450MHz FSB with desent memory speed and timings. 975X isn´t going to bring much difference compared to 955X.

need you to give nb_chip some LN2 too

I'll try what's the highest multi that 955xe can run.

wish it can be okay at 25x

[webwilli]

0606

very very nice

how did you get the high fsb? in bios or with aibooster?

[The Stilt]

need you to give nb_chip some LN2 too

I'll try what's the highest multi that 955xe can run.

wish it can be okay at 25x

Oh, your Presler has few more multipliers than I thought.
Nice

[Razor_Sniper]

8.5 ghz i doubt thats going to happen even on LN2

Yes Intel on LN2 does a great superpi run but I use mine to game with and encode DVDs


Intel won't be winning much on the gaming front until a better design of the CPU happens.

PCMark05 Users Top 10


1. 8513 DINOS-MIKE GREECE -- AMD

2. 8456 Maverick -- AMD

3. 8165 by D. Karetsos) - Intel

4. 7928 Skywaver -- AMD

5. 7800 hyperasus - Intel

6. 7689 eva2000 -- AMD

7. 7678 *XtremeSystems 3D Team* -- AMD

8. 7653 TuKo - AMD

9. 7614 BigStan -- Intel

10. 7465 ElDuderino -- AMD


PCMark04 Users Top 10

1. 10089 OPB Taiwan -- AMD

2. 9518 Sucka -- AMD

3. 9364 Sampsa & Kamu – AMD

4. 9326 FUGGER -- Intel

5. 9298 FROG -- AMD

6. 9158 maverik -- AMD

7. 9123 Project Octane -- AMD

8. 9078 by D. Karetsos) - Intel

9. 8878 Fletch -- AMD

10. 8821 Iboomalot XS -- AMD


3DMark05 Users Top 20

ALL --AMD

3DMark03 Users Top 20

ALL -- AMD


Intel a threath hummm don't think so

atleast they are improving there products competition is good

You forget kingpin with his dothan in 05

[rozzyroz]

those high amd scores are on account of sli. intel only needs to support the dothan for it to be the best gaming chip around.

[[XC] moddolicous]

Nice clocks there. As far as the PcMark05 scores go, I think the two top AMD ones use scsi bus, and the intel one uses ata. Also, like someone else said, AMD has SLI, which gives a nice boost in points. Also, the intel is only at 4.2, where as the AMD are at ~3200. If Intel had the scsi and sli, it would probably have beaten AMD.

[don_vercetti]

intel can have SCSI, and i don't think OPB's no.1 effort in 04 is SLI either.

[iboomalot]

You forget kingpin with his dothan in 05

Iam going off the Hall of Fame list

he is in 3rd place with an AMD setup

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1251888

see for yourself

[Razor_Sniper]

Iam going off the Hall of Fame list

he is in 3rd place with an AMD setup

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1251888

see for yourself

Oops, yes your right. I forgot sli doens't work with dothan...

[iboomalot]

I would say if Dothan did support SLI then Intel would be up there for sure.

Not knocking Intel but they fell behind and need to catch up much less with small improvements pass AMD in gaming and general everyday apps.

SuperPi Intel rules but not a very practical use of a CPU for most people.

[chainhoe]

much of its power comes from DDRII memory, 333mhz 3-2-2 woops DDR1 easy.

[VictorWang]

very very nice

how did you get the high fsb? in bios or with aibooster?

I started at 1.45v/294mhz*16 , than use aibooster to get higher fsb for sure

[AudiS4]

oh amazing..love it, love it, loooooove it

[railer]

SuperPi Intel rules but not a very practical use of a CPU for most people.

What do you call practical? Gaming is not practical less then 1% of pc users are hardcore gamers. For all around cpu i pick Intel over AMD anyday.
And i do find my dothan to be realy practical in gaming .

[iboomalot]

I doubt only 1% games but lets look at other stuff

excluding gaming scores

Multitasking
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav

Photo editing
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav

MP3 encoding
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav

Video editing
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7....html?tag=lnav


"The reduction in power consumption is impressive, but still not enough to give Intel an advantage over AMD, which makes things better, but hardly fixes the problem in our opinion. Unfortunately, we will have to wait for Intel's next-generation processors for a true competitor to AMD's low power Athlon 64s." ~~anandtech


"Although they aren't pictured here (for space reasons), you'll see in the coming pages that there is only one benchmark where Intel ends up ahead. The Roxio VideoWave test in PCWorld's WorldBench 5 suite completes 6 seconds quicker on the Pentium D 830 than on the Athlon 64 X2 3800+. That is one loss out of 31 total benchmarks for the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (once again, not all pictured here, but you'll see them on the coming pages).

The victory is clear and without debate, at the $300 - $400 price point, the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ is the dual core processor to get." ~~anandtech

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2484&p=5


maybe in 6-9 months Intel will have the goods until then Iam sticking with AMD.


Congrates on the OC on water very impressive ***tips hat to thread starter***

[K.I.T.T.]

^^

But once you start to overclock, things may change.....

[iboomalot]

KITT sure things change but AMD still runs cooler , still dominates the ORB , and will still be a faster chip.

I forgot this quote but I think it rigs true for now

"The choice is clear - the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ is better in every way than the Pentium D 830. For Intel's sake in the enthusiast community, Conroe had better be very competitive next year - because ever since Prescott, the Pentium 4 has been an utter disappointment" ~~anandtech

[k|ngp|n]

Intel is currently the 01', 03', and 05' single card #1 with 7800gtx512.
With 7800gtx256 single card, intel is #1 in 01', 03, and less than 100 points behind amd in 05'. All 7800 score were done with a weak chipset to boot.
With x850xtpe, intel is #1 in 01' and 03' single card, and less than 100 points behind amd in 05'.
and Look at what kyosen did with his 670 on ln2.
Hall of fame doesnt list single card scores(I wish it did). IF SLI worked as good on intel as it does amd........

[don_vercetti]

are those all dothans, or some prescotts as well?

[NickS]

"The choice is clear - the Athlon 64 X2 3800+ is better in every way than the Pentium D 830. For Intel's sake in the enthusiast community, Conroe had better be very competitive next year - because ever since Prescott, the Pentium 4 has been an utter disappointment" ~~anandtech

Ye it kinda has. Northwood raped AXP. Before that Athlon raped PIII's and early P4's. Now the Hypertransport style architecture has been powning .

[CrashOv3r1De]

Dont forget AMD is comming out with next generation CPUS too. Dont compare the 65nm Intel cpus to current AMD cpus thats retarded.

Wait until Socket M2 is out with some dual core FX series now that will really spank Intel bad.

[Salvador]

Dont forget AMD is comming out with next generation CPUS too. Dont compare the 65nm Intel cpus to current AMD cpus thats retarded.

Wait until Socket M2 is out with some dual core FX series now that will really spank Intel bad.

uhm.. where and when does the NEW NEXT GENERATION AMD CPUs come in?

AMD has expressed that they believe that their AMD64 arc. is more than good enough, and IMO will sit at their fence watching.

AMD 2006 - M2. FX and X2 with higher speeds. Taylor. DDR2. Any more ?

Hmm.. don't quite see where those next gen. cpus from AMD is coming in.. And AMD is coming with 65 nm at earliest 2H06, or maybe even 2007.

And if you know when those next gen AMD cpus are coming, please, by all means, enlighten me.

Intel 2006 - Merom and Conroe for starters, too lazy to mention everything. Oh yeah, they are TWO of Intels new real next generation cores.

We wait.. Patiently.

Thats right, AMD _do_ have a next gen cpu in line.. The K10. But we are going to have to wait. AMD's K10 is delayed or dead

[iboomalot]

Intel next GEN cpus are not due out till mid 2006 as well.

as it stands AMD owns in benching and for the normal user


LN2 IMO is worthless since you can't even think of that as a useable setup.

atleast a cascade could be used on a daily basis but sure would put out some massive heat dump and make your electric bill sky high but still is more down to earth and a LN2 amd or intel benchmark


I agree we patiently wait

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hey Kingpin how are you filtering out single card scores??

I used the 7800gtx as a filter and all the top scores were AMD in 03 ???


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are those all dothans, or some prescotts as well?

Dothans the presshots are low on the list.

[macci]

I used the 7800gtx as a filter and all the top scores were AMD in 03 ???

Well that way you get SLI results too and no wonder it shows AMD on top.
Use GPU clock range as a filter too....common sense is also useful in identifying Single card scores. You'll find an Intel Dothan on top of almost every (major) Single card class.

While all those 0.065 numbers are very interesting and all I fail to find the 'very impressive' and 'AMD is in Trouble' part from the benchmark numbers...
Maybe some dualcore optimized benchmark might have shown more potential but as far as those SuperPi numbers go they can be easily beaten with aircooled Dothan.

[OpTiX]

very nice oc, i cant wait for the new technology in 06