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    P4Gd1/P4gpl-x variable vdimm mod

    There is a known mod that feeds RAM directly from 3.3V line. So, RAM voltage = PSU 3.3V line voltage. Is it possible to change RAM voltage without changing 3.3V PSU line? Does anyone know what type of resistor do I need between those points to change RAM voltage? If not then how low can 3.3V line be? For example, 2.9V ok or not? The problem is that I can only use RAM that likes high voltage. Or I should use some switch to enable/disable mod.

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    Can you post any pictures of the DIMM slot area on the board please.

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    Here you go, front and back
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    I've found a thread that I posted in over at VRforums, but the thread died before I could get the voltage readings for the mod.

    here is the thread

    Can someone check the voltages at the points I've marked here

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    I measured voltages on the modded board already. PSU 3.3 line was around 3.14V. If I increase it to say 3.4V then all voltages at green points also increase.

    From the top to bottom,
    1st chip: purple 12.11, green 3.14
    2nd chip: purple 2.99, green 3.11
    3rd chip: purple 2.99, green 3.09
    Last chip: left both 0.8, right 10.7 and 4.83
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    what? with a 3.3v line set to 3.4v you only get 3.14v (real) to the dimms?
    that's pathetic. even less then with the normal vdimm mod (connecting pins
    on that lm-chip) on the p4p800-se.
    isn't there a straight 3.3v to vdimm pins mod like kyosen did with some other
    boards? the pic you posted way at the top looks somewhat different. i used
    to think you connect the 3.3v spot on the 20pin (or 24pin) psu-plug straight
    to pin x off the dimmslots, not to a point somewhat off the socket (that may
    be connected to the dimm-sockets via some resistors, etc etc...) ?

    ^^^ this is me thinking, nothing to be taken at face value.. (just in case)

    example pic of what i mean.. some aopen board (i855gmem lfes iirc):
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    Last edited by sky; 11-19-2005 at 06:18 AM.
    sky / s!p - we are oldskool, dammit.

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    No,

    Quote Originally Posted by kiwi
    If I increase it to say 3.4V then all voltages at green points also increase
    When PSU line is @3.4V then RAM voltage (and readings at green points) is approximately the same i.e. around 3.4V I have tested it up to 3.6V

    But as I said I can regulate voltage only on my PSU
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    OK volt measured on a P4GD1 set to 2.90V in bios running 2 sticks of RAM

    From this image the following voltages were measured with reference to ground -

    For MOSFETS starting with top most MOSFET

    Green pin - 3.41v
    Pink pin - 11.86v

    Green pin - 3.06v
    Pink pin - 4.61v

    Green pin - 2.73v
    Pink pin - 4.27v

    IC starting top left going anti clockwise

    Pin 1 - 3.38v
    Pin 7 - 4.10V
    Pin 8 - 4.51v
    Pin 14 - 10.37v


    Hope this helps

    JB

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    How can there be such difference between P4Gd1 and P4gpl-x? PCB is almost the same. Maybe because my board's been modded already?
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    Dunno, tho I would expect the mod to have a big effect. Gues we'll have to wait till someone else give in their readings!

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    Done a bit more testing, discovered with MOSFET ouputs the vdimm voltage :



    Hope this is of some use to you all

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    Can someone check the resistance between the pink pin on the Vdimm MOSFET (the MOSFET in Johnny Bravo's post above this post), and pin 7 and pin 8 on the LM324.

    Edit: check resistance with the power off

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    1.5K for both tho I don't trust the reading, slow to settle out, I suspect a capacitance may be charging up somewhere on the line. These readings mean anything to you?

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    Actually got the data sheet and see notch, Pin 7 has infinite resistance and pin 8 is reading 1.513Kohm atm

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    yeah pins 5 &6 are tied to ground so pin seven is out of the running

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
    Actually got the data sheet and see notch, Pin 7 has infinite resistance and pin 8 is reading 1.513Kohm atm
    Are you checking the resistance between the pin on the LM324 and ground, or between the LM324 pin and the pink MOSFET pin?

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    between MOSFET and Pin

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    hmm, I get 2.99K (pin 7). Nothing @ pin 8. Probably I should remove the mod and measure then.

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    connect a 50k VR between pin 9 and ground. Decrease resistance to increase voltage. I've marked pin 9 on the attached picture

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    will tell u how its goes some time after 5 tomorrow Persivore, got to take labs in the afternoon so won't be able to get anywhere near the board till I get back home.

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    vdimm mod confirmed! Measured upto 3.3v fully adjustable so far :-


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    nice! i'm sure many people will be happy. good work as always guys, good work

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    Thanks a lot Good job Persivore and Johnny Bravo

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    We may not be finished here guys, was doign some testing today and it seems that the max is ~3.33v regardless of how low a resistance goes between these two pins. Unfortunatly my BIOS became bored with living and now I have to get the chip reprogrammed...*sigh*

    If anyone else has done this mod and can get higher vdimm please report in here!!!

    Cheers

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    The max Vdimm will be limited by the 3.3v line. You will need to have the 3.3v line about 0.2v higher than Vdimm

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