I got me a NF7 Rev 1.2 Today

**fibonaccov** · 03-01-2003, 12:36 AM

Svenn,

Sorry to hear you could not reach higher - have you tried all the tips/suggestions posted at Epox AmdForums? (Muzz has some great ones in some thread)...and it did work for quite a bit of people who could not reach high fsb's....just mentioning...

--fibo

**Hallowed** · 03-01-2003, 12:38 AM

It is SATA Raid, though you do not necessarily need to use RAID (duh.)

Its faster than IDE by a mile, and it comes with the converter so you dont need to buy anything. Only bad thing is that drivers are a bit scarce, although I have a newer set given to me by the kind folk at LostCircuits.

**Svenn** · 03-01-2003, 12:39 AM

These are the only forums I read... so no. To be honest I didn't mess around with it as much as I'd have liked, but I did notice my cpu would run higher if I raised the mult and lowered FSB. I could only get into windows at 2600-2700 Mhz with strictly raising FSB. When I raised mult I made it into windows at 2800 Mhz easily. Couldn't bench 3dmark though.

**fibonaccov** · 03-01-2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Svenn
These are the only forums I read... so no. To be honest I didn't mess around with it as much as I'd have liked, but I did notice my cpu would run higher if I raised the mult and lowered FSB. I could only get into windows at 2600-2700 Mhz with strictly raising FSB. When I raised mult I made it into windows at 2800 Mhz easily. Couldn't bench 3dmark though.

Here we go - some info here

--fibo

**Svenn** · 03-01-2003, 12:53 AM

Thanks, most of that I've tried. I haven't done any vmods yet because I need money to buy a soldering iron... The clips I have aren't working either, they're too big. I haven't taken off the jumper yet though, so maybe I'll try that. I've got the stock nb heatsink on the southbridge and I'm water-cooling the northbridge. I have heatsinks on all the mosfets and the voltage regulator. I'll still be getting a NF7-S to play around with. Might as well if I'm buying a new board. I'll just keep the better clocking one.

**mdzcpa** · 03-01-2003, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by fibonaccov
I don't get it - what's exceptional to this board really? - most modded 8rda+ can achieve this and some do without any mod (true for the Abit too)...

This NF7 1.2 does 225 no mods...dual channel of course.

My budddies 1.2 which arrived yesterday is burning in at 220 dual channel.

And that's Out of the box...no mods. That's exceptional....for me at least. I've been through a ton of NF2 boards (asus and epox) trying multiple boards of each band...none did very well. 1 died and I sold all the rest. They made good every day boards, but poor tweakers boards for those who like to be in the BIOS all the time.

Not only is FSB and speed important, but just the smoothness of the board. And in that department both the Epox and Asus had numerous issues. BIOS exit freezes, settings not sticking, cold and wrm boot issues, sporadic multipliers working, some mutlipliers not allowing high fsb, all sorts of weird §§§§.

Not saying the NF7 is perfect. The early versions had a lot of trouble too. But so far the 2 1.2s I've tried have none of these issues so far. So it's hard for me to beleive it is not the better board at the moment .

It could be true that the 1.2 is just like every other NF2, but somehow I just don't get that feeling.

**RoydRage** · 03-01-2003, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by mdzcpa
[I've been through a ton of NF2 boards (asus and epox) trying multiple boards of each band...none did very well. [/B]

Well,

If by a ton, you mean 7, that's how many I've been through also... All died, and I only RMA'd one of them!

I'm currently running stable, and reliable @2949MHz. 14X210 with an 8K9A2+. But alas, it's bench performance is not up to a nforce 2... If the speed is the same.

I'm putting a lot of hope in this board for the Prome/Lian-Li Pro. After being promised one from GameVe, and being sent a Rev 1.1 (which was promptly returned, at least they gave me a full refund), My only hope is a big computer show upstate. There is supposed to be 175 tables, so I'm going to have to play Peek-a-boo, and go Rev 1.2 hunting...

Wish me luck....

http://www.maximumoc.com/guides/promli.html
RoydRage

**Jeff** · 03-01-2003, 06:39 AM

Where's the show at Royd?

**WxChaser** · 03-01-2003, 08:12 AM

Good luck finding the mobo at the show, Tony. By the way when I did the upgrade to 1.2 revision board, I installed the 510W PC Power & Cooling yesteday, it rocks. The pots are nothing short of outstanding (such fine adjustment, I started adjustments and looking in bios to see changes and it was like - why aren't they changing, then I realized how fine the adjustments were - and the PSU is ROCK STABLE). Thanks for your help with all that, Tony.

You'll love the 1.2 NF7-S in the Mean Machine.

**RoydRage** · 03-01-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Jeff
Where's the show at Royd?

Middletown... Orange County Fair Arena...

But OMG! not only did they not have an NF-7 S Rev 1.2.... THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AN NF-7 PERIOD!

What a bunch of hicks! But then I guess I shouldn't say that... Cause I drove all the way to Yonkers Raceway to the other circuts show... And they didn't have one either! What a blip... I just have to wait till I can get one online...

RoydRage
www.maximumoc.com/guides/promli.html

**RoydRage** · 03-01-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by WxChaser
Good luck finding the mobo at the show, Tony. By the way when I did the upgrade to 1.2 revision board, I installed the 510W PC Power & Cooling yesteday, it rocks. The pots are nothing short of outstanding (such fine adjustment, I started adjustments and looking in bios to see changes and it was like - why aren't they changing, then I realized how fine the adjustments were - and the PSU is ROCK STABLE). Thanks for your help with all that, Tony.

You'll love the 1.2 NF7-S in the Mean Machine.

Wx,

I'm sure I will whenever I get one

You're Welcome on the PSU.... You know the old saying... "Buy The Best", "You'll Never Be Dissapointed".

www.maximumoc.com/guides/promli.html
Best, Royd

**WxChaser** · 03-01-2003, 02:44 PM

You may want to try Azzo, Tony - (where I snagged mine and they were great making sure I got the right revision of the mobo), or I think Excaliber is supposed to be getting another shipment this week.

**Hallowed** · 03-01-2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by mdzcpa
It could be true that the 1.2 is just like every other NF2, but somehow I just don't get that feeling.

Most noticeable change I noticed between the A7N8X / 8RDA+ and this board is definately the weight. The 1.2 feels much heavier. Perhaps its a higher PCB layer count?

**twiggy** · 03-01-2003, 03:26 PM

OPP where you at?! Hows it going.

**fibonaccov** · 03-01-2003, 03:37 PM

mdzcpa,

I realize what you got is great - btw, you had to mod your cpu if I recall, no? The 1.2 seems like a good board indeed but it seems like a VDD mod is still required to go above 220'ish fully stable...like I said some 8rda+'s are running 230fsb dual-sync stable with and without VDD mods...Obviously, having a VDD of 1.7v in bios helps - I just wished they has made it available to higher values like the 8rGa+ ...I'm also looking at this board and will wait for more feedback...

--fibo

**mdzcpa** · 03-01-2003, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by fibonaccov
mdzcpa,

I realize what you got is great - btw, you had to mod your cpu if I recall, no?

Yep...sure did....but that CPU mod helps on just about all NF2 boards. This has been very well documented around the net by now

The 1.2 seems like a good board indeed but it seems like a VDD mod is still required to go above 220'ish fully stable...like I said some 8rda+'s are running 230fsb dual-sync stable with and without VDD mods...

Yep...but we both know that that kind of performance is the very remote exception....is it not? Most 8RDA+ boards run much much lower I thought. At this point only a handful of NF7 1.2 boards are out there so it's really too early to tell whether we'll see some 230mhz v1.2s. I expect we will.

The point isn't to look at the highest performers from each brand...nor the lowest. The best board, in my opinion of course, is NOT the one that has a very slim chance of running the highest FSB. Instead, the best board is the one that consistently puts many users in the highest range of stable FSB speeds.

Just based on the early results of myself (2 boards now that run 220s), MrLavender, Equito, Shadco, RacerX, a others, it seems running at least 217 is almost a given. I think you'd be hard pressed to say this of the 8RDA+.

But...perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps the two 8RDA+ boards I tried were just bad examples of the board, and that the two NF7 1.2s I've tried are great performance flukes. You never know

Either way...I'm not going to get into a pissing match about which board is better on this thread...at least not any longer that is

If I recall, this was meant to be an NF7-S 1.2 thread I think...that is until some users decided to bring the 8RDA+ into the discussion

Sorry about crappin on your thread OPP

**xgman** · 03-01-2003, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by mdzcpa
Wow...this is very surprising. I would have thought all steppings of the NB on the v1.2 to be A3. Just for reference here's a pic of my NB:

How about everyone else?

A3 here.

**xgman** · 03-01-2003, 07:09 PM

Op, what vdd are you planning to run at after mod? I have mine set at 1.85 so far and I am wondering if she will benefit from more?

**Major** · 03-01-2003, 07:19 PM

I think that 1.8-1.9v are optimal, just burned mine nb up at 2.1v with no gain after 1.9v, might have been my fault though, not sure if the water block was making good contact with the NB. You should make sure you have better cooling on the nb if your going to crank it up. Some people have reported getting better fsb just by improving cooling so you might want to try that first.

**OPPAINTER** · 03-01-2003, 09:05 PM

I did a little moding, I’m on straight water for the NB. This mobo needs more Volts then the Rev1.
I ran into a snag, the Dimm 3 sucks, and that’s the one I need for good dual channel. I can run all day stable at 237 one stick, and check out these timings 3-2-2 Cas2

That’s right, completely loaded a new OS and everything at these settings. The problem is, Dimm 1 and 2 work fine at 237 then I switch the stick to Dimm 3 and no go, Urhh.
My voltage is 1.96 VDD, and 3.1 v-mem.

I may have to resort to a pelt and up the VDD to get the Dimm 3 working at 237.

By the way, I did a mem mod, very easy on this Rev1.2 J the reason that everybodies mem voltage is over volted, is because Abit took our mem mod and did one themselves to this mobo

, right off of pin 19 they suck a resistor in the trace to the Mosfet, there’s your extra voltage

And this my friends makes for a easy break in the trace for us, just take out the resister and put in your own

OPP

**twiggy** · 03-01-2003, 09:09 PM

Sorry to hear that Major

. It took ~1.97v on my chipset to get 237 fsb and this was with the stock hs and no as3.

**Emericana** · 03-01-2003, 09:15 PM

opp lets see some sandra benchies w/ 3-2-2-2 at 237! kick ass!

**twiggy** · 03-01-2003, 09:17 PM

OPP- Yeah I noticed that this thing loves more voltage then the rev1 and 1.1's also. The dimm3 sounds fuct up, whats the highest you can get with a stick in dimm3?

Gonna have to get down and do a vdimm mod now

. Thanx for the heas up.

**Major** · 03-01-2003, 09:19 PM

Thanks twiggy, no big deal, not the first nor the last time I'll trash a mb. I just ordered another NF7-S v1.2 suppose to be instock on tue. Thought about an Epox this round but everone seems to be doing great with the Abit. I've been back on the A7N8X finally got it stable at 212mhz DC sync but just doesnt seem the same after running the abit !!!!:p I'm hopeing the new NF7-S will have an A3 on it I think it makes a difference.

**OPPAINTER** · 03-01-2003, 09:52 PM

Here is a single channel with mem at 3-2-2 Cas 2.

OPP

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