xp3000 anyone?

**shortcircuit** · 02-26-2003, 08:25 AM

This is killing me. I can go down the street and buy an xp3000+ right now. But I haven't seen anybody run one of these chips on a prometia or something similar, and I don't want to get one only to find that it won't clock any better than my 2500+. Has anyone used one of these chips, or seen a review where someone put one on a prommy?

**PMM** · 02-26-2003, 08:36 AM

Know a certain someone with Barton 2800 but sounds like he is
having probs with stability, he did say he got into windows @ 2625 prommie cooled but sounds like it went belly up quick.

**OPPAINTER** · 02-26-2003, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by shortcircuit
This is killing me. I can go down the street and buy an xp3000+ right now. But I haven't seen anybody run one of these chips on a prometia or something similar, and I don't want to get one only to find that it won't clock any better than my 2500+. Has anyone used one of these chips, or seen a review where someone put one on a prommy?

I wish I had one, for some reason I'm thinking 3000Mhz stable with my setup

OPP

**shortcircuit** · 02-26-2003, 08:47 AM

OPP that's what I'm thinking too. In general it seems that with supercooling you can get the mhz up to the PR-rated speed that amd uses. My xp2000's did 2000, xp2400's did around 2450, xp2700 did 2800, and my barton-2500 does 2500. Bowman has his barton-2800 up around 2800mhz. So surely an XP3000 should do 3ghz.... right??

OK, this shop is open for another hour. If traffic isn't bad I should have one tonight. (thinking to myself, man, I have a serious problem...

)

**bowman1964** · 02-26-2003, 09:21 AM

i dont think the xp3000 will run any faster.

amd did not sperate the batches like before.the xp2800 and xp3000 are only 83 mhz between the two my friends.
so they had no need to seperate out the yields of batches.

i am sure the xp2500's were from the lower yielding batches.

like i said 83mhz is nothing.and at this moment 3.0g isnt going to happen with only 2.0volts. these chips do not like voltage at all.

but hey i hope i am wrong.i would like to see 3.0 on a barton.

but i am working on a artical now with someone to actually show in benches the differances of performance in the two.but to be honest at this moment i think the barton that i have even running right now at 2.74g stable is no match for my xp2600tbred @2.83g

the test will using a tbred and my barton running at 215x12.5 same boards and memory timing and brands.well will see but i am not sure the barton will show the extra 256k being worth the effort.

**shortcircuit** · 02-26-2003, 10:09 AM

Well, I got it.

AXDA3000KV4D
AQUCA0306TPAW

I'm gonna run it in overnight aircooled on my NF7-S before trying it in the 8rda+/prometia.

**bowman1964** · 02-26-2003, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by shortcircuit
Well, I got it.

AXDA3000KV4D
AQUCA0306TPAW

I'm gonna run it in overnight aircooled on my NF7-S before trying it in the 8rda+/prometia.

well you are them man...good luck ....let us know how it does on air

**Charles Wirth** · 02-26-2003, 10:15 AM

bling bling

cool

**Caprid** · 02-26-2003, 10:37 AM

Looking forward to seeing that 3000 in action

Have my 2800+ pretty stable at 12.5X225 - 2800Mhz with 2.075v. I ran a bunch of Benchies and found clock for clock the barton is on average 3% faster than the Tbred.

**shortcircuit** · 02-26-2003, 12:18 PM

The XP3000+ seems stable at 2.4ghz on air. This is at 1.8v vcore using an slk-600 heatsink with a 60mm delta fan (don't remember the part number but it's a finger chomper). The slk-600 is way too small for this chip... and I didn't expect to go much faster than 2.4ghz with this hsf. When I first got my xp2700+ I had trouble breaking even 2.2ghz with this setup. My cpu temp in MBM5 is 56c now. So I still have high hopes for the prometia...

**bowman1964** · 02-26-2003, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by shortcircuit
The XP3000+ seems stable at 2.4ghz on air. This is at 1.8v vcore using an slk-600 heatsink with a 60mm delta fan (don't remember the part number but it's a finger chomper). The slk-600 is way too small for this chip... and I didn't expect to go much faster than 2.4ghz with this hsf. When I first got my xp2700+ I had trouble breaking even 2.2ghz with this setup. My cpu temp in MBM5 is 56c now. So I still have high hopes for the prometia...

good you got a good one....mine ran 2.4 on air too..

it should go right to at least 2.6 with your prometia.

good luck

**spaceman** · 02-26-2003, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by shortcircuit
OK, this shop is open for another hour. If traffic isn't bad I should have one tonight. (thinking to myself, man, I have a serious problem... )

Hahaha, I love it. I've been wrestling myself today again, about wether I actually NEED a Barton or not.

**tweaky** · 02-27-2003, 02:51 AM

lol how many computer parts do we buy that we actually need huh!?

**DDTUNG** · 02-27-2003, 03:12 AM

Well I got the chance to test a 3000 Barton for about an hour today, and ran it with a SLK800 and 43CFM fan on a Magic Pro NF2 mobo. Using 1.87Vcore I managed 13.5x187(2525MHZ). Since this was not my chip I could not do the L3 mod for higher FSB, hence the raised multiplier.

Based on this brief test I would say OPP is not far off the mark with his estimate of 3G.

DDTUNG

**guelahpapyrus69** · 02-27-2003, 03:24 AM

here is a link with some people's posted max speeds on the barton 2800 and 3000 almost 3.2 Ghz for some.

http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/Barton/

**guelahpapyrus69** · 02-27-2003, 04:05 AM

my bad 3.12 not 3.2 big difference

**bowman1964** · 02-27-2003, 04:26 AM

would be nice if it was usable.but LN and DRY ICE do not count to me.but i did notice the high voltage on a couple of 2.26v vore...if i could get my core to take that voltage i would be there too..
it's the chip not taking over 2.0 volts that kills most of us on air,water,or on a prometia style system..
i havent tried to go past 2.8 in the last coulpe of days.i have been too busy.but i think in a few weeks after the yields pic up maybe at the end of march we will start to see some close to 3.0g speeds on a prometia.

**shortcircuit** · 02-27-2003, 05:03 AM

Here is a pic of the core. I'm at work now, will post more results later tonight.

**sysfailur** · 02-27-2003, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by guelahpapyrus69
here is a link with some people's posted max speeds on the barton 2800 and 3000 almost 3.2 Ghz for some.

http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/Barton/

Good thinking, just put up that stuff on the 26th

Also if you guys haven't seen, new #1 AMD oc on the Tbred page on vr-zone... 3.382ghz! And it's a 2100+!!!

http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/TBred/

**sysfailur** · 02-27-2003, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by shortcircuit
Here is a pic of the core. I'm at work now, will post more results later tonight.

I believe the correct reaction would be "uNF!"

**bowman1964** · 02-27-2003, 06:08 AM

shortcircuit

man i hope you got one that like's voltage.just imagine if the core likes over 2.0v you will have one awsome chip my friend..

that has been the only fault i see with the chip as of now.

keep us posted,

**xgman** · 02-27-2003, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by DDTUNG
Well I got the chance to test a 3000 Barton for about an hour today, and ran it with a SLK800 and 43CFM fan on a Magic Pro NF2 mobo. Using 1.87Vcore I managed 13.5x187(2525MHZ). Since this was not my chip I could not do the L3 mod for higher FSB, hence the raised multiplier.

Based on this brief test I would say OPP is not far off the mark with his estimate of 3G.

DDTUNG

Save the $200. My 2800+ Barton is about on par with these specs above.

**Caprid** · 02-27-2003, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by xgman
Save the $200. My 2800+ Barton is about on par with these specs above.

Not so sure about that. Here's my 2800..

It's a week 04, that 3000 is a week 06. If they are anything like the first Tbred 'B's you should get a little more out of the second batch, plus the extra 83Mhz default on the chip, might just be enough to boost it to 3ghz? Plus the fact that it has a 13X default multiplier, you won't have to hack on the chip to use the multiplier function in the BIOS.

**bowman1964** · 02-27-2003, 08:58 AM

VERY IMPRESSIVE

NICE maybe the newones can handle to voltage better look like your runs fine @2.10 .
i havent tried any more on mine latley but i couldnt get mine to even startup at that core v.

**xgman** · 02-27-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Caprid
Not so sure about that. Here's my 2800..

It's a week 04, that 3000 is a week 06. If they are anything like the first Tbred 'B's you should get a little more out of the second batch, plus the extra 83Mhz default on the chip, might just be enough to boost it to 3ghz? Plus the fact that it has a 13X default multiplier, you won't have to hack on the chip to use the multiplier function in the BIOS.

Yes that may be true, but a $200 upgrade value? Seems a bit overpriced for such a little gain.

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