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    Quote Originally Posted by Onepagebook

    this 32m can be done @ 3.17(actually 3.13v under bios)v is a bit crazy
    No way... Error after loop #21 with 3,30V 254.6MHz timings as in ur run, except Trfc of 11, i'm on 12.

    Great rams u have there! But i like my Lvl II too, great sticks tbh.

    Edit: Can't see it on ur screens, 2x512MB or 2x256MB?
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    of course 2x512
    long time no 2x256mb

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    The vdimm are not showing right value on the dfi nf4 board and its much to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastviking
    and its much to.
    What?

    Yes, 0.03-0.04V in bios, 0.07-0.08V in windows, or what do u mean?

    @OPB

    Thougt it was ur WR sticks..
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    Nice stocks OPB. R those some new G-Skill sticks garunteed to do 300 2-2-2-5?? Does setting tras to 0 instead of 5 or make a noticable difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravediggA
    What?

    Yes, 0.03-0.04V in bios, 0.07-0.08V in windows, or what do u mean?

    @OPB

    Thougt it was ur WR sticks..

    WR 2x256 sold to ZeroX 2 weeks ago, and I can tell you that this 2x512 is really nice. , well the point is not ram, the point is I use 510-3 oskar bios

    well , sorry that I forgot to show the 1024 dual channel info,, I can do that if you guys wanna see. but under the situation of showing many CPUZ and a64tweakers, the results will be couple seconds slower

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    Quote Originally Posted by moddolicous
    Does setting tras to 0 instead of 5 or make a noticable difference.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...0&postcount=16

    @OPB

    No need for it, i believe it.

    Maybe i give the 510-3 a try one day, it looks a bit slow instead of the 704-2BT.
    U can run Trfc 11 only with this bios?
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    thank you for your trust, too bad, I already ran it and only 1 sec slower. I think I gotta give some evidences right ? Or someone might start thinking OPB BS here again; other bios, I think will be same though.
    ** this looks slower than 704-2bta is because I install the Mac OS theme, and this HD is not for bench purpose
    Here you go:



    finished:



    windows captured:

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    Come on Kevin, what RAM is that? Is that also Twinmos or Buffalo? 3.17v would be about 3.22v measured with multimeter and that is still very impressive for 253Mhz and 32M You are just way too lucky, you know?
    Impressive stuff you guys are showing here

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    Very nice results Kev!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onepagebook
    thank you for your trust, too bad, I already ran it and only 1 sec slower. I think I gotta give some evidences right ? Or someone might start thinking OPB BS here again; other bios, I think will be same though...
    Hehehe...I know what RAM that is and it definately isn't anything GSkill Yup, TRFC11 is pretty crazy. I talked to OPB and he said to try it @ 270. Well, I can now definately say that it's no possible @ 270 . I did try RP@4 and it actually made my times slower ...... C'mon Kev, you know that I can do around the same timings/vdimm as your sticks, now show me if those sticks can run these timings for 32m (even better -> do it on air )

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    Try slacking your trrd to 2? Might add enough stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike6969
    Hey thanks for the reply, sounds promesing for my 1gig of corsair pc3500c2 pure bh5 just like your twinmos, would i get same or near results of your memory? ohh by the way, my mobo MSI Neo2 platinum sux big time paired with any bh5 old or new, with new revised bh5 ocz gold it only does 204fsb stable in memtest at 2.85v , just horrible. And this same ram does 221fsb in my brothers 754pin DFI NF3 250g at only 2.8v. This mobo sux and swallows.
    Corsair 3500 is very good RAM. I had a stick that died on me soon after I got it. Pulled the spreaders and they were 313we's - one of the best production weeks for BH5. You need to get a DDR Booster for your Neo2 Plat. I used that board in my preview of the 3800+ Venice and this was what it did @ 3.7Vdimm w/2x256 Kingston PC3500 Bh5 -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor
    Try slacking your trrd to 2? Might add enough stability.
    For running TRFC11? I'll try that, but I have a feeling that even if I can get the setting to stick, I won't be able to run any benches. When I try setting TRFC11 with my current settlings, I instantly get a reboot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike6969
    Did you mean 3.7Vdimm w/2x512 Corsair PC3500 Bh5 ?

    What is the max safe 24/7 voltage on these suxers ? I have a 54cfm fan blowing on top of them, very cool to the touch at 3.1v in my bro's DFI NF3 250G
    Also, do you know how much voltage would it take for me to reach 250fsb? I'd be really happy at 250fsb with lowest latency possible 2-2-2-5. Thanks.
    Nope...2x256 - CPUz was bugged @ the time of the Venice's release. Max Vdim 24/7? I'd say anywhere from 3.2-3.4, maybe even a little more if your sticks can handle them. I don't even wanna guess how much vdimm it would take to do 250 since every set is different......
    Ahhh- 3.7 is nothin Old BH-5's can handle voltages like that. If you take a look at my Vdimm on my current 2x512 set, you'll see that I'm also using 3.7 for these as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
    Nope...2x256 - CPUz was bugged @ the time of the Venice's release. Max Vdim 24/7? I'd say anywhere from 3.2-3.4, maybe even a little more if your sticks can handle them. I don't even wanna guess how much vdimm it would take to do 250 since every set is different......
    Ahhh- 3.7 is nothin Old BH-5's can handle voltages like that. If you take a look at my Vdimm on my current 2x512 set, you'll see that I'm also using 3.7 for these as well
    hehe you forgot some thing you are not runing 3.7v its more like 3.7+0.1=3.8v the dfi bf4 shows wrong check it with a multimeter there the board miss one cap close to the dimms.

    I have used 3.4v+0.1 = 3.5v now for some days it works fine with a fan over them.
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    My damn DFI drives me crazy these days..

    A few weeks ago i run 273MHz 32M, now it is impossible to take 270MHz 1M.. sometimes it runs with 3,6V then no way with 3,8V.. everyday something new with this board.
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    thats some amazing scores you are getting with 2x512mb old BH5 s7e9h3n
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravediggA
    My damn DFI drives me crazy these days..

    A few weeks ago i run 273MHz 32M, now it is impossible to take 270MHz 1M.. sometimes it runs with 3,6V then no way with 3,8V.. everyday something new with this board.
    Welcome to the wacky world of the DFI NF4-Boards When I had originally got this memory, I couldn't run the Vdimm over 3.6 on the memory or they would freak out. I just recently popped the sticks back in and they run easily @ 3.7 now
    Oh, BTW my windows vdimm reading is pretty close to the actual vdimm since this particular board pushes the volatge pretty hard to the memory. For example I arrive @ the 3.7V I'm using right now by setting 3.6V+.03 in bios. If I set 3.6V without the +.03, I get 3.66V in windows......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike6969
    so 3.7volts is pretty safe as long as u have some decent air cooling right? I don't think i'll feel comfortable playing games knowing my ram is doing 3.7v, just sounds too insane to me.

    Another question, would i be able to reach high fsb if i leave everything on "auto" for memory timings and stuff on DFI mobo (except for 2-2-2-5)? In my bro's pc (754 pin DFI) everything is at auto and runs pretty good , or should i tweak them like u have posted above on your new bh5?
    LOL, if you think about it, whatever we consider "normal" for our overclocked computers is often considered "insane" to the rest of the non-overclocked world. So "insanity" is all relative
    When you set everything on "auto" you have a better chance of reaching a higher FSB since the memory will default to loose timings. Yeah, you should try to tighten the settings as tight as they will run stable (but unless your sticks are some of the best sticks ever made, I doubt that they will be able to run the EXACT same timings as mine on the MSI board). Just make sure that you set your memory speed to 200 or 1:1 otherwise your sticks will boot @ 217Mhz max......

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    Steve, were you talking about like these two? they were all done over 270 with tight as hell timing.:p




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    Quote Originally Posted by Onepagebook
    Steve, were you talking about like these two? they were all done over 270 with tight as hell timing.:p



    Woah, those are some fast times....well if you don't factor in the multiplier, my sticks can match that 1m @ 274 and they're tighter @ 32m than your 4m @ 270

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    ya, that's why you gotta set trrd as 2 match RP as 5 for best stability and not lose any performance, at that moment, tight timing is NOT helping you out for faster result but just holding your calculation back
    ** also , that's not 4m , that's 8m.. 8m is really a bit tricky than 32m...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onepagebook
    ya, that's why you gotta set trrd as 2 match RP as 5 for best stability and not lose any performance, at that moment, tight timing is NOT helping you out for faster result but just holding your calculation back
    ** also , that's not 4m , that's 8m.. 8m is really a bit tricky than 32m...
    LOL...ok I'll try that (I knew you weren't telling me something when we were talking about this on the phone)....but still, isn't 32m still harder to run tight than 8m? I know you're gonna show me up pretty soon so I'm just trying to enjoy the moment

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    thats like my old KHX true bh5 (over 3 years old now i think) anyways, on my dfi, before i got rid of that buggy POS, they did 274 2-2-2-7-1t @ 3.5 volts, ran a few benches and a sandra, and took em back down to 225 @ 2.7 volts, i was scurd. but i dont think mine would have been stable enough for those benches man, those are some sweeeeet sticks you got there.

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