X1800 Xl = Wow!

[gunit]

so far, using zalman copper sink for cooling i'm able to run through 3dmark at 650/700, turned it up to 675/750 and it ran for a bit but then it crashed to desktop with driver dying aswell. didn't artifact at all though. both were at 1.3v/1.9v , trying 675 again but with 1.35v and 2v mem. temps seem to be about 50c idle and not heat up all that much during benching.


EDIT, just did 689/800 1.375v/2v and got 9215 score. running 2gig cheap cruicial and 4400X2 which are both , right now, clocked very conservatively. 2.35Ghz/235Mhz 3,3,3,8. dropped some speed since i went to uni and left watercooling at home. winters coming though so should be able to push that up again, will play around with that later. no arties with that run , feels like it has way more in it.

u notice a big temp improvement going from stock to zalman?

[trakslacker]

just did 689/800 1.375v/2v and got 9215 score.

NICE. That is right in line with what others have gotten on pretty good air. These things are OC'ing very nicely as a whole, and in a fairly uniform manner at that. Every last one I've seen has hit at least close to XT speeds on the stock cooler, and way above in good air.

woot!

[drunkenmaster]

well hard to say what it did temp wise. i switched to zalman after about 5 mins of fan going up to 100% every few minutes and doing my head in. temps in the ccc said 80-90c, didn't try the newer drivers before i removed it that supposedly show proper temps(who says they are accurate, who knows). with the zalman, tbh, i think it only dropped about 2-3c compared to stock sink, and thats with as3 compared to thicker pad that the stock sink used. its not a bad sink, just a terrible terrible idea to use a tiny tiny fan that you have to use at full speed to get any kind of airflow. i don't think the zalman is that much better, when you compare weights they aren't vastly diff, both mainly copper, zally does have a bit more airflow but personally i think the design is a bit poor.

hard to say if its stable or not so far though. its crashing in a certain sequel to call of duty that may or may not be out yet ¬_¬ . but all 3 3dmarks passed fine as has quake 4 and some other stuff for last few days. think its driver/game issue rather than anything else.

when are thermalright gonna come out with an xp120 that fits on a gfx card.

not everyone has pci cards to worry about i could fit an xp120 in there. , i'd say most people have lots of space for a heatsink that was ofset to the side of the card(so that it didn't go directly down and leave pci space clear. theres gotta be loads of people though that don't really use pci slots at all.

[trakslacker]

when are thermalright gonna come out with an xp120 that fits on a gfx card.

perhaps a better question is when are we going to MAKE the XP-120 fit on a GFX card?

[Bar81]

u notice a big temp improvement going from stock to zalman?

I think it probably depends on your case airflow. I have a very low airflow case so the Zalman was definitely better and much quieter. At 5v on the Zalman in my case I get the following (these are as high as I checked. I'm sure it could go even higher but I'm satisfied)

600 core at 1.2v and 700 memory at 2.0v

[gunit]

a little update. I opened up my case up to get more cool air into it. I was able finish the first test in 05 at 800 on the mems, but halfway into the second test I got artifacts. Still at stock voltage. I think I have some super 1.4ns ram here, lol. I guess the only reason I get artifacts when I do it due to the heat build up. Since if there wasnt enough voltage it wouldnt make it so far into the test...thats just my exp with CPU's, does the same apply to GPU'S?

[Astennu]

When i saw the X1800 XT cooling the first thing i thought was: That must me way better than my Zalman VF700 CU.

I'm thinking of putting A Zalman 7000 Cpu cooler on it or a XP90 or so. Also got a AMD Boxed cooler wit heatpipes. But then i have no memory cooling i think.

[Astennu]

My first set of 05 resulds @ XT speeds:

3DMark Score
(3DMarks)
8648

7519
CPU Score
(CPUMarks)
6515
6100

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon
(fps)
36.4
33.5

GT2 - Firefly Forest
(fps)
26.1
22.7

GT3 - Canyon Flight
(fps)
43.5
35.9

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1
(fps)
2.9
3.0

CPU Test 2

(fps)
6.5
5.5

Te First numers u see is my X1800 XL card Clocked @ 627-756. The second = my old X850 XT PE @ 625-610 Running @ my old VEnice @ 2.833 MHz. My XL was running on my new X2 2600 MHz Toledo.

Drivers: Omega 5.10a. And Nvidia Nforce 6.70 drivers.

GPU Voltage 1.250v and 2.0 for the memmory.

I have seen XT cards hit 9k @ stock i only got 8k6. Maybe i need to reinstall windows ? I realy think this could be beter. Drivers are @ stock Quality setting. But i think revieuwers that did the 9k also has stock quality. I don't think that 512 mb extra memmory of the XT is the trick to the 9k. What do you guy's think ?

Update:

I'm @ 625-801 now still 1.25 and 2.0 volts:

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 8862 3DMarks
CPU Score 6317 CPUMarks

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 37.3 fps
GT2 - Firefly Forest 26.7 fps
GT3 - Canyon Flight 44.7 fps

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 2.7 fps
CPU Test 2 6.5 fps

Memory looks nice tho. Could not get 820 working i think its the heat. I got a Zalman VF700 CU but i don't think it will do much better.

[gunit]

alright, I opened my case and turned our A/C to coldest setting. This brought down GPU idle temps by about 9'C from 55 to 46. not sure about load. Hopefully that Zalman vga fan or some silencer type will do similar temp wise but with case closed.

Its just strange how the mem will go so high with no voltage increase. core would work fine at 661/1.25v, but mem needed core to be at 1.3v I think this oc tool is a little buggy. Thats it for the core oc wise, i tried 700, but even at 1.4v id get lockups.

I can see many people getting 10K with the X1800 XL with realy nice aircooling or simple water.

[mR Yellow]

EDIT, just did 689/800 1.375v/2v and got 9215 score. running 2gig cheap cruicial and 4400X2 which are both , right now, clocked very conservatively. 2.35Ghz/235Mhz 3,3,3,8. dropped some speed since i went to uni and left watercooling at home. winters coming though so should be able to push that up again, will play around with that later. no arties with that run , feels like it has way more in it.

Nice OC
For me mem works best at 2v.

[Charles Wirth]

I see you got the memory going too, this 14ns stuff clocks great, I am running 3D at 850Mhz as well.

[gunit]

I see you got the memory going too, this 14ns stuff clocks great, I am running 3D at 850Mhz as well.

u think those simple ram sinks that come with the zalman 700 will be better than stock method of cooling?

[Charles Wirth]

Can you reach for 1Ghz memory? I can hit 954 and it starts to artifact.

Heatsinks make no diff, I have them off this card.

[cantankerous]

I was going to get the OEM Sapphire to save some money but now I dunno anymore. You guys are all using retail Built by ATI cards which I think is what I am going to get. Better local warranty cause i live like 20 mins from their HQ plus the clocks seem to be wicked from this. I like, no love how Fugger is using retailed off the shelf cards for his tests which shows results are good for the average Joe. Im ordering a card for next week as well as the X-FI Fatality sound card. Should be a fun gaming week for me.

[Astennu]

Ineed o got just 9026 with 660-800 @ 1.25v for the GPU and 2.0 for the mem. 800 was max du to heat. Still stock cooler @ max fan speed.

I Got A Retail Sapphire X1800 XL in case u whant to know.

On What voltage Are u guy's getting that 850 MHz ? I can get MAx 810. I i do 820 i get instant immage coruption accros the intire screen. I think its all because the heat. Till @ stock cooling. Maybe i shoud try The Zalman VF700 Anyway.

[Unoid]

any results of a watercooled gpu and active cooling on the ram that has ramsinks?

perhaps something like 780@ 1.4V / 800@2.0V
?

[gunit]

I was going to get the OEM Sapphire to save some money but now I dunno anymore. You guys are all using retail Built by ATI cards which I think is what I am going to get. Better local warranty cause i live like 20 mins from their HQ plus the clocks seem to be wicked from this. I like, no love how Fugger is using retailed off the shelf cards for his tests which shows results are good for the average Joe. Im ordering a card for next week as well as the X-FI Fatality sound card. Should be a fun gaming week for me.

my retail sapphire was nothing more than BB ATI card with Sapphire Alien Sticker sloppily slapped on.

[Vapor]

That's because Sapphire makes all the BBA cards....I'd argue that a BBA card is nothing more than the Sapphire card with the sticker sloppily taken off.

[gunit]

That's because Sapphire makes all the BBA cards....I'd argue that a BBA card is nothing more than the Sapphire card with the sticker sloppily taken off.

well, duh sherlock! I just mentioned that to put the other posters mind at ease.

[Astennu]

I encounterd a new problem. If i raise the voltage of the GPU. Higher Than 1.1v i get artifacts in ATi Tool and HL 2 Lost coast. I did not see them in warcraft 3, 3dmark 01 and 05. But if u try HL 2 LC or ATi Tool u can see them clearly.

Dous anyone have a clue why this is ?

[gunit]

I encounterd a new problem. If i raise the voltage of the GPU. Higher Than 1.1v i get artifacts in ATi Tool and HL 2 Lost coast. I did not see them in warcraft 3, 3dmark 01 and 05. But if u try HL 2 LC or ATi Tool u can see them clearly.

Dous anyone have a clue why this is ?

i dont get artifacts in lost cost at 1.225v core. as far as ATI Tool, which one are using? I tried the unsupported one which everyone can use and I got artifacts even at stock everything.

[Astennu]

i dont get artifacts in lost cost at 1.225v core. as far as ATI Tool, which one are using? I tried the unsupported one which everyone can use and I got artifacts even at stock everything.

I whas using 0.25 Beta 8. But it got worse !!! @ stock speeds and Stock voltages ATi Tool reports Pixel error's. So you have the same problem ? may be the these carde render things defferently ? have more ppl got this problem? i"m scared as hell now

i will do some more testing in hl lc.

Do you or others have A DFI Ultra D / SLI or something ? Because since the first day i used this card my boot logo has strange colers. Do any of u guy's have that to ?

[gunit]

I whas using 0.25 Beta 8. But it got worse !!! @ stock speeds and Stock voltages ATi Tool reports Pixel error's. So you have the same problem ? may be the these carde render things defferently ? have more ppl got this problem? i"m scared as hell now

i will do some more testing in hl lc.

Do you or others have A DFI Ultra D / SLI or something ? Because since the first day i used this card my boot logo has strange colers. Do any of u guy's have that to ?

no, that version of ATI too does NOT support the X1800 cards. thats why u see errors.

regarding lowering temps, I was looking around reviews on the zalman one and the ati silencer performance on the X800 cards. And the silencer did a better job of cooling the core by about 5-8 degrees. Does anyone know when the silencer for the X1800 cards will be out?

[gunit]

I was going to get the OEM Sapphire to save some money but now I dunno anymore. You guys are all using retail Built by ATI cards which I think is what I am going to get. Better local warranty cause i live like 20 mins from their HQ plus the clocks seem to be wicked from this. I like, no love how Fugger is using retailed off the shelf cards for his tests which shows results are good for the average Joe. Im ordering a card for next week as well as the X-FI Fatality sound card. Should be a fun gaming week for me.

i would skip th X-FI and save ur money, u wont notice any difference from ur audigy 2.

[Astennu]

no, that version of ATI too does NOT support the X1800 cards. thats why u see errors.

regarding lowering temps, I was looking around reviews on the zalman one and the ati silencer performance on the X800 cards. And the silencer did a better job of cooling the core by about 5-8 degrees. Does anyone know when the silencer for the X1800 cards will be out?

Lol ? Silencer VS Zalman reviews that i have seen gave me a other resuld. In fafor of the Zalman. U can look @ the 7800 GTX an GT PCB and maybe a Silencer NV 5 will fit ?

But is there a ATi tool that supports R520 ? The Beta 9 can support some OC features but can it detect artifacts in a good way ?

I played lost coast @ 590-750. If i try 800 Mem with 1.2volt i get problems i don't have those problems @ 1.25v. But i i raise to 1.250 i get checkers in Lost Coast. Regarding the clock speeds. So its no 600 MHz core for me from what i see now . Can't go higer than this. And the temps are like 60C Stressed or so.

Gunit I saw u ran 1.3v. How did u card react ? if i do that i get freezes all the time. And if u use 1.250 or higer With lets say 750-800 mhz for the ram. And arround 600-650 mhz for the core. Do you get artifacts then ? If i run 1.2 v olt and 600 core i gett minimal artifacts but they i there. If i go to 1.225 i get the cheakers from to high voltage. I find it realy strange.