NVidia's 7800 ULTRA TO COME SOON!

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 06:20 AM

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/10/14/nvidia_prices/

Looks like ATi may lose it's crown before it even gets it...

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 06:27 AM

hahaha, so good if you just wait and see...now if I would have bought a GTX in June....I would feel bad right now...

I always said (like many others) that this Ultra is still coming....Fuad Fraud just got a whole new meaning...

Now...if the GTX is already within 10-15fps of the XT...guess what it will do with the same memory, and 512mb..and a healthy clockspeed bump...

Note that G70's architecture (Mhz vs Mhz - Pipes vs Pipes is better, that's ofcourse comparing Oranges to Apples and vice versa, but what if they can get the speed up to let's say 500mhz?)

**Starscream** · 10-14-2005, 06:27 AM

December

i got some specs on the 6800GS thats named in the same article:
GeForce 6800 GS
12 Pixel Pipelines
256Bit
256 MB
about clocks speeds they dont wanna say anything yet.
the price that Nvidia sets is 249 dollars for the 256MB card.

sadly i think it will b that Non Ultra core that has a max of 12 pipes so no unlocking.

i think it wil beat the X1600XT np, so im shure ATI will answer with a new mid-range card for the X1xxx series.

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 06:28 AM

December? hell no dude...that's the 512mb GTX...the Ultra is coming very soon...most likely 1st of November!!!!!!!

**Shadowmage** · 10-14-2005, 06:29 AM

Yeah, what's with the title? This is merely a 512MB version of the 7800GTX

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 06:30 AM

Word on the "street" for the past month has been november 1st, to have it out the door before ATi get their XT on the street.

MSRP *should* be the same as ATi's x1800xt.

p.s. Tim, remember me telling you to wait instead of buyin the x1800xt?

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Shadowmage

Yeah, what's with the title? This is merely a 512MB version of the 7800GTX

It also told them to expect a 7800 'Ultra' with 512MB, very soon.

The 512MB version of the GTX will be available, sources told us, in December.

Now, that looks like an Ultra....AND a 512mb GTX doesn't it?

Originally Posted by DilTech

p.s. Tim, remember me telling you to wait instead of buyin the x1800xt?

ofcourse Dil

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 06:31 AM

Shadow, it says clear as day, NVidia is launching their ultra VERY soon!

Originally Posted by bittech

NVIDIA has told partners at a recent conference in Amsterdam that it won't be dropping its prices on 7800 series boards before Christmas.

It also told them to expect a 7800 'Ultra' with 512MB, very soon.

**alexio** · 10-14-2005, 06:34 AM

Yep, the card was ready a while ago as I posted:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=72587

I hope it has a new core. 32 pipes would be really nice. It would be really pushing ATI to launch the R580 core cards.

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 06:37 AM

I remember seeing that post and shrugging it off actually alexio, as I'm sure you can understand due to the lack of a link..I take any forum posts without proof with a grain of salt.

Either way, now it's official, there WILL be an ultra soon, and that's straight from NVidia's mouth.

**Starscream** · 10-14-2005, 06:38 AM

wouldnt 32 pipes be overkill for shure?
imagin the CPU ud need for 2 Ultras with 32 pipes ?

or some really kickas dual core optimized drivers.

btw a french link on the GS
http://www.clubic.com/actualite-2307...ez-nvidia.html

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 06:38 AM

Jesus guys....if that means 32 pipes.....I can't even begin to grasp the power of this card...

Well the quadro cooler could be on it, that's good for people don't wanting watercooling...should perform really well

**HeavyH20** · 10-14-2005, 07:07 AM

There are two items on the way. First, there will be a spec change on the 512 MB cards. They will purportedly use 1.2 ns instead of 1.6ns GDDR3 (1400 Mhz) memory. Second, a new 90 nm core is on the way that promises some very nice OC abilities. Couple those together, and you have the killer GTX or the "Ultra". Both of those items were expected in January.

As far as I could gather from all the insight leaked from nVidia, there will be no Ultra, per sey, but a new version of the GTX with stepped up specs. It would be bad PR at this time for nVidia to release an Ultra. Many who have purchased the GTX would feel betrayed as nVidia has hardlined the fact that there would be no Ultra version.

**perkam** · 10-14-2005, 07:15 AM

A 7800GTX 512MB is likely. As for a 7800 Ultra (which to our, bit tech's and the Inq's knowledge, may well be a 512MB GTX

)

"the inq" has never been equal to "it says as clear of day"

As for the 6800GS, the X800GTO and GT were out months ago...AND on top of that ATI has the X1600XT coming up with no 7600/7200 in sight. Pls make sure to evaluate all the facts before the "ATi will get owned" comments begin to go through our minds.

Perkam

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by HeavyH20

As far as I could gather from all the insight leaked from nVidia, there will be no Ultra, per sey, but a new version of the GTX with stepped up specs. It would be bad PR at this time for nVidia to release an Ultra. Many who have purchased the GTX would feel betrayed as nVidia has hardlined the fact that there would be no Ultra version.

nVidia has hardlined the fact that there would be no Ultra version.

Correction....IIRC the only one who said this was Fuad....(Fraud) he checked with his sources...well he's BS and we know it....

Who would feel betrayed? seriously...we are talking about fall/winter refresh....5!!!!! months ago the GTX was launched...nVidia has absolutely NO reason to not release an Ultra

But we will see, it would sure be great...

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 07:18 AM

Bit Tech didn't link the inq, and I didn't link the inq.

NVidia stated at their meeting in amsterdam to expect a 7800Ultra very soon.

They ALSO mentioned a 512mb gtx. Wouldn't this obviously point out 2 different products?

Also, perkam, there's been word floating around about a new nvidia card coming november 1st. It's now a fact that it won't be the 512mb gtx(NVidia said December for that part), and it won't be the 6800gs(december there as well). So it would almost have to be the 7800ultra. I'd expect it by the latest in december, since NVidia will be launching their dual-gpu cards early next year(the g72 sku).

Originally Posted by Bit Tech

NVIDIA has told partners at a recent conference in Amsterdam that it won't be dropping its prices on 7800 series boards before Christmas.

It also told them to expect a 7800 'Ultra' with 512MB, very soon.

The X1800 is a worthy competitor to the GT, but costs as much as a GTX. The XT is a worthy competitor to the GTX, but isn't available yet. The 512MB version of the GTX will be available, sources told us, in December.

Looks like 2 different cards to me, how about you guys? Keep in mind, this is STRAIGHT from the horses mouth!

Finally, Heavy, NVidia NEVER said with their own mouth that there wouldn't be an ultra. Tim is fully correct on this. ONLY the inq posted that article! Therefore, NVidia wouldn't be lying to anyone... Besides, we already knew there would be a fall/winter refresh, just originally everyone expected it to be the 7900 instead of the 7800.

**purefun65** · 10-14-2005, 07:34 AM

arent they making new 7800's on 90nm in the mobile cards? hmm makes me wonder what they are gonna pull out of their hat!

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 07:36 AM

The RSX(NVidia's PS3 chip) is 90nm as well...

**Tim** · 10-14-2005, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by DilTech

The RSX(NVidia's PS3 chip) is 90nm as well...

At this rate, the RSX is outdated before the PS3 will even hit the market, the RSX is only slightly faster then a GTX...

Funny...

They have the capability though, 90nm......wishful thinking but there's nothing wrong with that

**perkam** · 10-14-2005, 07:56 AM

ok lol...Dil, pls try to say things in a concise manner

Yes he's right in one thing. Check Bittech's article again. The Inq is mentioned two lines after the article starts...mentioning first what they know from partners, THEN the inq.

So yes it seems the possibility of an Ultra exist...but I doubt a company with non-existant nex gen low and mid end will focus completely on the higher end especially when it has little competition there.

We get articles, thats information, but when we analyse them, we need to use some logic gentlemen.

Perkam

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 08:01 AM

Perkam, those were NVidia's exact words "expect an ultra soon".

As for low and mid end, do they really need to bother? They can just bump down the 6 series and still manage to maul ati's new cards, meanwhile keeping most of the same product features besides radiosity and Transparency AA, which a mid-range product really wouldn't have the horsepower to handle these 2 features anyway.

This is why everyone has stated NVidia is in a very strong position currently.

**[XC] leviathan18** · 10-14-2005, 08:02 AM

mid range is going to be the 6800gs isnt it?

**Ubermann** · 10-14-2005, 08:11 AM

Speeding away pretty fast, by this time tommorow your talking about 64pipe monster with 2048MB GDDR5 RAM.

**perkam** · 10-14-2005, 08:12 AM

They can just bump down the 6 series and still manage to maul ati's new cards

It's not that simple

This isnt matrox we're talking about

The 6800GS will compete will the X800GT/GTOs ...with the GTOs at $199 being unlocked to 16 pipes for 6k+ in 05. If its one thing thats getting mauled in the mid end, its the 6600GT and the 6800NU...the GS, XT and what not are responses to ATI's recent leadership in that section. Secondly, the 6200 and the 6600 are being used number of times in reviews of the X1300PRo which beats them both at a very affordable price.

I believe the Ultra wont be launched before Nvidia can release the 7600 and 7200 out...or at least the 7200 considering the X1300PRo makes more of a bang in the low end than the X1600XT in the mid end

Perkam

**DilTech** · 10-14-2005, 08:15 AM

Actually, NVidia's own words is that the 6800gs is their answer to the x1600xt.

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