GTX 560 Coming soon!

[saaya]

1200 on air? holy shT!

and eyefinity is the reason amd should charge more for their cards wtf???
considering 570s cost 100$ more than 560s, the 560 actually looks like the best card to get...

actually, the best price perf card to get is the 560 imo, the best highend card to get is the 570, and the best entry level card to get seems to be the 460...
amds lineup really sucks right now... cant believe they screwed up so bad...
all they got is eyefinity and a theoretical transistor efficiency and die size advantage, and thats it
i dont get it though, amd has the advantage in theory, but they lose in almost every segment in reality...
i guess its cause they were too damn greedy when it came to transistor budgets for their chips, and yields on 40nm are so good now that nvidias chips have good enough yields even though they are larger...

makes sense, with perfect yields double the transistors result in only double the chip cost, and with a chip costing around 35$ thats not a big deal...
so 35$ more and you get almost double the performance... so if yields are good, keeping transistor budgets low and focusing on transistor efficiency doesnt make a big difference

it seems to be a re-occuring ati problem, as most of their refreshes underperform because they keep the chips too small.
in theory, this should mean atis 2xnm chips will rock again though, as there yields will be an issue again and you have to get as much out of your limited transistor budget as possible... but for now... amd cards are just not worth their money imo...

i dont know... nvidia has usually the fastest card, but they charge a bonus for it, fair enough.
then every now and then they have awesome price perf cards, like the 560 now.

ati used to offer the same or MORE performance than nvidias competing products for a LOWER price...
lately ati tries to sell their cards for as much as they can and are really greedy, not offering any great deals for quite a while...
fair enough, charging as much as you can works, but im pretty sure they could have sold more cards if they had cut prices and created an awesome price perf part... the reduced profits per card would have been made up by the increased volume... this is how it used to work for ati... they could have sold their 8500 and 9700 for even more, but they didnt and thats what made them so popular...