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Originally posted by Geforce4ti4200
what new motherboard did you get? I am getting the chaintech nf3 250 mobo. I have heard things about the corsair XL ram, they say itll do about 220fsb at 2-2-2-5 or 240-250fsb at 2.5-3-3-7 but dont you have ram that did 235fsb at 2-2-2-5 on a 3200+ clawhammer using a via kt800 mobo? Is it true the via mobos are a little faster than the nf3 150s? I will tell my dad to order an a64 tomorrow and when I get back from the vacation to Alaska in a week, my mobo and cpu should be here along with a copy of farcry(free!) nearly all a64s now are newcastles so your 1mb cache clawhammer is gonna be worth 100-150MHz on top of my newcastle. Then my ram is corsair value that does about 225fsb at 2-2-3-7 timijngs. the ras-cas of 3 will eat a few hundred marks, no idea how much, maybe 400? I can buy a 256mb stick for below $100 just for 3dmark then resell it for a small loss when im done. I will have much to learn about HT, fsb, T1 and T2 command rates and ram divisors. I have done a mild vmod to the core but it only gained 10MHz. how good is the TT copper cooler? what coolers will fit a ti4200? I also havent vmodded the ram but its my experience that the core matters much more anyway. I hope to get like 360/730 clocks. However I doubt I can match you on the cpu side. Id say 18.5k would be realistic with the 2800+ newcastle im getting, but then I am cheap and do not wish to spend another $100 on a 3200+ which is probably just a higher clocked newcastle anyway. any tips for me before I get the a64? I got some tips: disabling fast writes gained me 100 marks. setting the agp speed to 85MHz got me another 50. I also run 3dmark many times till I get a good run. Did you do any windows tweaks and how much did that help?
It's an Abit KV8 Pro board but it is really hard on memory, my old KV8 MAx3 would allow 240+ 2-5-2-2 and this board allows 217 because the VBT voltage drops like a stone.... so my new cpu speed is all but wiped out 
My Corsair does 215 at 2-5-2-2 and 225 at 2.5-3-3-7 so either I have a bad stick or it is the motherboard again.
/me waves goodbye to the motherboard 
Via is faster than nforce but more trials and tribulations to overcome. If you are macci you take the nforce and just bend it to your will with volt mods, myself I will take the VIA route and hope for the best 
I don't really tweak the operating system, at the end of the day it all boils down to Mhz on the graphics ( both gpu and memory ) and MHz on the cpu and memory. So to get those you need volt modes and cold cold cooling. When you have those you can forget, to some extent, trying to gain 100 points through some obscure tweak.
Regards
Andy
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