Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
But naming a part that implies its an upgrade is any better? How is naming a part which at this point likely has the performance of a 5850, a 6870 not deceptive?

The 9800gt has a much lower MSRP than the 8800gt, so as long . The 6870 has the performance of a 5850 and the price of a 5850, but it's being called a 6870.

There might be new technology in the 6870, but I don't care for having 5 monitors(which is useless for gaming), but the technology itself is more about benefiting AMD than the consumer. It sounds like it about a third smaller and AMD is only lowering the price 10 dollars. I would be shocked if AMD made the 6870 fast as or faster than a 5870, because the 6970 has to justify it likely double price point somehow and being 30-40% faster is not going to cut it. The 6870 scoring sounds about right with a x7500 at 250 and a 6970 at 500+ at 12000. It just doesn't seem possible that bart xt would be 9000+ at 250 and cayman xt at 500+ at x12000.
im not saying its one way or another, im saying it should be better so wait the few days for benches.

also your not looking at the correct cards, go find a reference card or a better than reference dont compare a cut down POS. amd always puts out a good reference board but once sapphire or xfx get it they cut the prices by $30 or so and put a ty pcb out. the lowest price on newegg is $260 for a 5850 but the directCU that is the cheapest that can oc is $265/280 (on sale) but the cheapest reference or reference looking is $310. so if u are comparing $230-250 v 280-310 thats a nice cut and its a launch price so it should go down if NV brings something. ati had lost amd money for q3 so they need high margins or we wont get anything when ati is cut back