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Thread: AMD: 32nm yields ramping worse than expected, Llano delayed, BD didn't sample in H1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMojoZ View Post
    That info hasn't been current for awhile, sorry. This isn't 2007.
    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    You are late to the news party,3 years late to be precise.
    Nice logic there. A project is on track compared to what ? What is the reference date? Because if that's constantly changed with every news release from the company, then a project can never be late.

    Any sane person would see that BD is already 1 year late and counting compared to the original plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solus Corvus View Post
    I love how certain you are about BD being late and crap. You have been predicting BD being Q3/Q4'11 or even 2012 for years now. It looks like you are taking every new negative rumor and bit of bad news and trying to fit them into the late/crap narrative. If that's the narrative you want to build then fine, but don't try to come back later and claim you were just being objective.
    Regardless of what's being discussed, from a simple philosophical and logical point of view, if it ends as he originally predicted "for years" and that is not objective, than what the hell is objective?
    It means the guy is either the new Nostradamus or he used his critical thinking and not relied on faith.

    I freely admit the possibility of BD being extremely late. I'll also admit that it could be a dud architecture. But I don't see enough hard evidence to suggest that they are the only possibilities. You seem to have totally rejected the possibility that BD will deliver competitive performance and/or in a reasonable timeframe. If BD taped out in Q2 and things go relatively smoothly then 12 months isn't unrealistic.
    I don't think he rejected anything. Just that the uarch rework done in 2007-2009 means they originally aimed too low and now the process blips introduce a feeling of uncertainty whether the original plans for a mid 2011 launch are still valid.
    Last edited by savantu; 07-16-2010 at 11:20 AM.
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