GTX 480 does not really do much, its hot and well hungry. GTX 485 would be a good card and hopefully it would be out before ATi's refresh.

5870 around 900mhz-950mhz is very comparative and if you mix in 2GB's and say a $70 or so less of a price tag its would be a win on ati's side.

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What are you saying?
HD 5870 US$379 - launch price
HD 5850 US$259 - launch price
Yep those are the launch prices but the 5870's were listed at $399.