i'm talking generational improvement on amds side to nvidias side... the jump from 2000 to 3000 was greater than g80 to g92

the jump from 3000 to 4000 was greater than g92 to g200


the 9800gtx+ does NOT perform better than a 4870....
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...review--asus/9

4850 and 9800gtx+ are more or less equal ... thats why nvidia released the 9800 gtx + because of the 4850 not the 4870... can of whoopass? are you for real? 4890 and gtx285 are more or less equal

4870 vs gtx280 (can of whoopass my ass) is about 10 - 20% performance difference... YEAH WHAT A CAN OF WHOOPASS costs twice as much and performs 10% better...

4870 is about equal to gtx260/gtx260 216sp


nvidias can of whoopass was not a can but more of sandvich bag full of moldy whoop ass