Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
So, here is some detail:

On games, the Phenom II will do better than phenom just because the L3 cache is large enough, it is not going to be any better than a Conroe with 4Mb cache, at same frequency. Of course, you can find corner case, but those are rare.
It looks like the 2nd Load port of the phenom I or II is not helping it, due the the fact that its decoding bandwidth is becoming a problem on 64bits. (the extra byte increase by 25% the bandwitdh required). The lack of wilder decoder engine does not feed properly their back end of the processor. The next step for AMD is to copy hyperthreading, if they don't do so, they will never come back to competitive position, and if they do so, they will have to pay attention to be power efficent when doing it. Doubling the number of decoders would be a power catastrophy.

The next Core mainstream will have no problem there

This is my personal opinion, my employer is not responsible for this posting.

enough quality for you? If you ask details, you get them, don't complain about it.
im sorry but how that answers this:

Have you seen Phenom II performance numbers with SLI/CF?

Based on what AMD is showing, you'd be crazy spending a whole crap load of money for a small bump in frame rate (if any) that you'd get with a core i7.