I pointed what I mean out about two weeks ago with my last 9600 BE. Look here=> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=736



Froze straight after that.

Quote Originally Posted by Iketh View Post
lemme understand this better... u talking about 2.6GHz overclock right? and at idle a core might speed to 2.7GHz????
At any core clock, even just idling at 2.35G.

Quote Originally Posted by Mathos View Post
Hmmm thats interesting infor KTE. I had my 9600 BE running at 2.7Ghz stable at 1.262v. Would boot fine, ran prime 95 stable for 24 hours. Stable in all benchies, like 3dmark06 and pcmark05. But, every once in a while after restarting for unknown reasons when I would go to start up Coretemp, or Everest to monitor temps it would lock those programs and refuse to load them. Granted that was also on 1.2 Bios on the k9a2 plat, so any gain from being at 2.7 was wiped out by the TLB fix. Rolled back to 1.13 to get away from TLB fix, and ended up having to knock the OC down to 2.5 at 1.25v for full stability.
I'm on 1.13 BETA, it gives me best results TBH. But I'll try for some high bandwidth dependent numbers by rolling over to P0E next. Sami showed 211 x 12.5 CPU, 211 x 12 IMC/HT and 211 x 2.66 RAM and I know this chip does 216 x 12.5 CPU, 216 x 12 NB/HT and 216 x 2.66 RAM easy. Imagine CR1 at 1148 with low volts.. would be nice don't you think?

Someone on Toms hardware has a theory that part of the Phenom's issue is a possible hotspot in the die, revolving around either the Northbridge or L3 cache. I do believe that the individual core readings that coretemp shows are correct. Under full load at 2.7 my cores were staying below 31c, but CPU temp according to everest was running and staying below 40c full load on all 4 cores.. So that temp difference between the cores and CPU has to be coming from somewhere.
The monitoring apps read from the sub-IHS temp probes AFAIK but the highest internal core temp reading is what EVEREST labels as "CPU" and that has to stay <70C.
Just know for sure, that idling, on air/water (not chilled), the CPU cannot be ambient temps, as an IC will current running through and resistance. On just air cooling, 95W TDP, even 45W TDP, with CnQ enabled (which IIRC throws TDP down to 60W on Phenom) the temps cannot be less than ~+8C above heatsink ambient (not room ambient, but heatsink ambient which is hotter than case/room). These are IC limitations once there is TDP. The RD790 chip has a 10W TDP and at 22C ambient it will be idling at plus 28C, so you can judge next to that for accurate/inaccurate values.

Not sure what is happening with temp values nowadays, we know Intel has big problems with its Penryn line probes mostly faulty but some are sounding ludicrous. I saw someone boasting about 1.65V 4.5G full load on normal air at 40C. I mean, yeah, 5W TDP chip, fair enough, but at >180W TDP? That honestly made me wonder is wrong here.

Quote Originally Posted by tictac View Post
can you uninstall your phenom and cnq driver? hope that fixed freezing issue.
Why should this cause the problem if CnQ is BIOS disabled tictac?

I installed the driver after my freezing actually.
oh if you open more tham one program that do i/o operation like coretemp and everest that no good. just use one program ok?
100% true.

Opening CPUZ/EVEREST/CoreTemp along with AOD will and can cause this problem. That's why I only try and open one. Worst is if you have any of them open and try to open AOD. That'll usually throw the PLL haywire up fast.