liek i said all we have seen so far are E6600 and E6700 on air in intel and the overclocking sections. No one used aircooling on X6800 in the past several months, its all phase/ln2 on X6800 to break WR. When retail E6600 , 6700 are out we will see whther or not retail is better than B1.

X6800's 75W at stock speed compare to the E6700's 65W ...