News: The 7800gtx isn't really the G70....

[DilTech]

Guys, this is 100% my story, no hardware site has it posted, so if there's any complaints, take it up with me directly.. I'm still digging for more info, so this will be updated... Either way, it IS news, so don't move it!

First, I'll start you guys off with this...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/d...110034348.html
http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DN
http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DN
As you can see from that, this summer, ORIGINALLY, the NV47 was suppose to release, being 24 pipelines, 8 vertex shaders, and 110nm design. The chip was a MASSIVELY revamped NV40.... The chip was then supposidly cancelled so that NVidia could concentrate on the G70, a core that was suppose to be in the works along side the NV47, however, it turns out the NV47 was never actually cancelled... The 7800gtx IS INFACT THE NV47.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, exhibit's A and B are the attachments you'll see at the bottom of your screen. Notice that both Rivatuner AND NVidia's own Development software BOTH call the core the NV47.. If this core was infact the G70, wouldn't NVidia have had it hardcoded to say it was rather than the NV47? Didn't NVidia say this so-called NV47 was cancelled?

Exhibit C...Please look at the picture of the G70 core very closely while reading this one...
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...g70-part2.html

According to its designation, the chip is manufactured or packaged in Korea. That's confusing. It's well known that TSMC has its own facilities for packaging dies, that's why the die should have been stamped TAIWAN, if manufactured by TSMC. There is a packaging plant in Korea, but it mostly processes dies from IBM. Has the American blue giant taken up NV47\G70 manufacturing again? The matter is left open.

Now, We all know that TSMC produces the G70 core, right? Well, TSMC DOESN'T HAVE FABS IN KOREA! IBM uses korea, and IBM isn't making these cores... What does this have to do with anything you ask? THE STAMPS ARE ADDED BY NVIDIA AFTER THE CHIP IS PRODUCED! NVidia messed up by leaving it to say Korea instead of Taiwan. A mistake only very few people would notice, as most people don't take the heatsink off their videocard, and even less know where TSMC's fabs are.

Now, there's the news part out of the way.. The 7800gtx is NOT the G70, but the NV47, which officially leads us to the speculation part...

Why would NVidia lie about the core being the G70, and even more-so, what would they have to gain from such a claim? They could've easily told everyone it was going to be the NV47, and no one really woulda cared, as long as the performance numbers are what we're looking at now(and they are SWEET!), so why lie about it?

My theories on this are the following...
1.) The actual G70 wasn't finished in time, therefore NVidia went with what they already had done, the NV47, while they finish up the G70, making it either 90nm, 32 pipes, or both. Giving ATi a false sense of hope that the NV47/g70 is the best they have at the same time.
2.) They're sittin on the G70, as they knew the NV47 could make some major sales, realizing there was huge delays with the R520. Thus, changing the G70 name to G71, and using the NV47 to make ATi show their hand.
3.) There never was a G70, NVidia just threw out the name, replacing the NV47 name, to really throw a curveball at ATi... Increasing the pressure on them, essentially, bluffing.

Regardless, NVidia is going thru ALOT of trouble to hide the core's true name if it's number 3...So 1 or 2 is the more probable answer.

Let me know whatcha think guys, I'm going to continue to dig up info and see if I can get to the bottom of this. I've also emailed NVidia about this, and if they give me an official answer I will post it here asap... Again, the part of the 7800gtx not really being the G70, but the NV47 with a fake stamp on it IS news, so please do not move or delete this thread, it WILL be updated.