1700+ JIUHB 52 week madness!

[morphling1]

Bravo, Prometeia evap temp is aprox -30°C right, how much do you think it's internal diode temperature of overclocked athlon tbred cpu, I doubt it's much lower then -5°C, depends a lot on voltage of the cpu but in the same conditions there is no way you can compare heat transferr ability of let say micro channel water block to something like thick base copper evaporator, so the difference wouldn't be that great if you can cool water to ~0°C

[Hognert]

That chip seem to overclock just as well if not even better than my 2400+ AIUGB. Damn impressive I must say . Try it with higher voltage, many of em like it best at 2,2V+.

[bldegle2]

Don't even go there, there is not a waterblock out there that can come close to the chilling these units can put out.

Running stock, my 2700+ will run at -24*c, right now, clocked as shown in sig, -10*c.

Now, if you can claim -10*c, then maintain it for the whole day, lets say gaming, then you have a righteous water cooling rig, of course, antifreeze will be needed as the water will freeze sooner or later at these temps

my 2700+ maxes @2940, i can do it one of three ways, 13x223, 15x196, 22x134 with my 8k3a+.

I am running very stable, thank you, at the settings shown in sig.

And, for those of you with video tearing, the better your ram, the higher you can go without tearing, but sooner or later, it comes to bear.

Just my input on the whole situation.

baldy

[KnightElite]

Originally posted by BradMax
Whats the manufacturers code on the box? I can find one 1700 that starts with AXDA1700 and another that begins with AX1700 dont know if that makes a difference? just that the T breds seem to start with AXDA right?

That is correct. Thoroughbreds start with AXDA, Palominos with AX.


Amazing clockage morphling1.... I want a new CPU now .

[spaceboy]

Originally posted by Bravo
I doubt this. The best block on the market only provides 16C above water temps.

at what voltage?

[Iolao]

[OT]
morphling: did you read my email?
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[STEvil]

:smileysex

omg.. I need to get one of these... Gonna have to run a high multi with my PC2100 ram, though.. unless 3v can get my ram past 170+.. heh 8-)

768mb (3x256) Micron 7.5ns.. 8-/

[Bravo]

Originally posted by spaceboy

at what voltage?

Offhand, it was 2.15v to simulate a 125watt heatload.

[Liquid3D]

Of course it's up to you morphling1, but if your intent is to push the chip as far as it will go, that may eventually lead to it's damage. It is a gem, I'd be happy with >3000+ CPU performance for $69. Of course it's not called Xtreme Sys... for nothing. If your going to push the chip to it's maximum then LN2 is the next step, eventually discussing Flourinert FC-70 applications (Doh, I just did);
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

Great sig. STEvil!

[morphling1]

Originally posted by Iolao
[OT]
morphling: did you read my email?
[OT]

No, not yet I'm not in my working OS. and I don't have outlook set up, I'll read it tomorrow.

bldegle2, I didn't talk about maintaining water temp whole day, that would be of course whole different story involving some phase change chiller. But I wanted to say if you would have water that temp. it would be very close to prometeia performanse.
As for keeping cpu at some temp it's all about cpu heat output and how efficient is your cooling equipment. (C/W) at ambient temp.
Ambient temp with prometeia is temp inside evaporator, and ambient temp with water block is of course temp. of the water.
Abiente temp diff. is strongly on prometeia side, but C/W of hiQ water block is a lot better then evaporator, and then also don't forget that heat transefer is much better from solid to liquid then from solid to vapour. All in all the difference should not be that big.
I'm not doubting prometeia as being the best cooling equioment available mainstream, but I do believe that some hi performance chiller could is not that far back.

[morphling1]

Originally posted by Liquid3D
Of course it's up to you morphling1, but if your intent is to push the chip as far as it will go, that may eventually lead to it's damage. It is a gem, I'd be happy with >3000+ CPU performance for $69. Of course it's not called Xtreme Sys... for nothing. If your going to push the chip to it's maximum then LN2 is the next step, eventually discussing Flourinert FC-70 applications (Doh, I just did);
http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/e...er/output_html

Great sig. STEvil!

Don't worry I'm only into watercooling, and I know where to stop

[STEvil]

When you get a 100% oc to make the Celeron 300/333a's and P4 1.6/1.8's look bad..? 8-)

Sig needs updating.. stuff came in mail.. gotta test the 9500 yet, though.. cant install it on this puter.. 8-/

[Liquid3D]

By the way I just wrote a short Email to Ed Stroligo at Overclockers.com pertaining to his articles addressing the difference between J and A steppings among TBreds; their implications, and origins. He makes the following statements in his artcile titled "Just not good enough for overclocking." 1/13/03;
"This could change, but for now, I think you have to treat chips beginning with "J" as Just not good enough for high-end overclockers.

There is nothing wrong or evil with AMD selling these chips; I'm sure they work perfectly fine at their rated speeds, and that's 98-99% of AMD's market.

These chips are supposed to be the next Durons, anyway, so AMD can end up with plenty of these for some time to come with no problem.

What would be wrong is you buying one. At least AMD is nice enough to provide an indicator that these aren't primo chips. You ought to take advantage of that."

I think your JIUHB wonder-chip replaces the "J" in his article's title"Just not good enough..." to the J in Juxtapose; from "low-end" to "high-end" TBred's as he describes them in his most recent article of 1/15/03 titled "High Breds and Low Breds."

[STEvil]

If has to eat his words, does that mean he gets to eat a Spitfire or a Morgan? 8-)

[morphling1]

JIUHB week 51 update, friend of my who bought one of the last chips from that batch, overclocked his 1700+ to 2300+ MHz @ 1.85V VOLCANO 7+ 100% stable, if that mean not good enough for highend overclockers, than I don't know §§§§ about watercooling

ps. I'll try my second chip tomorrow, but it was the same as his just next serrial number.

[KnightElite]

Originally posted by STEvil
If has to eat his words, does that mean he gets to eat a Spitfire or a Morgan? 8-)

Spitfires look more appetizing, I think.... . Though if you eat a Morgan, then you get more transistor-full goodness....

Tough choice, either way .

[NoOne]

Originally posted by STEvil
If has to eat his words, does that mean he gets to eat a Spitfire or a Morgan? 8-)

Hi..

i have and XP1700+ B JIUGB week 51..
This chip is very good.. my temps was amazing for a COOLER MASTER

39ºC Idle
40ºC Full Load
Ambient: 36ºC

[Diablo II]

truly amazing chip man

[RaV[666]]

Yeah ,i too think that "J" team isnt that bad afterall, mine JIUGB does 2100mhz ona alu Air cooling with 1.825v, for 60$ bucks its the best stuff you could buy ,intels cost 3x times more and they overclock relatively similar so

[STEvil]

Morgan would be easier on the teeth, too.. that ceramic stuff might be a tad tough.. 8-)

Anyone wanna drop 2.2v into theirs yet? I would if I had one.. but im a little broke until I sell off a few vid cards, lol 8-)

[morphling1]

I'm reaching the limits of my memory in mobo here



And 3dmark score that sucks but never the less it made at 2733 MHz. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5664469

Once more this is 1700+ that shouldn't be good

Btw, I had cpuid screen shoot at 2825 MHz of course unstable but I lost it, I'll make new, tbred optimized waterblock tomorrow, that I hope will drop my temps ~ 5°C and then try again, 2900 cpuid shoot would very well be possible if I would have larger multiplier.
Is there any way I can have more then 12.5 on 8k3a ?

[N8]

WOWIE!

[N8]

There is a way to short a L3 & get 13x...but then you get only 13x(Hell, might be other ways of shorting to get other high mults). Of course it can be reconnected on top of the CPU

[Jeff]

Holy Smoley!!!

That is summmmmm chip you have there.

[morphling1]

Originally posted by N8
There is a way to short a L3 & get 13x...but then you get only 13x(Hell, might be other ways of shorting to get other high mults). Of course it can be reconnected on top of the CPU

Is this the only way, 13 locked or 12.5 unlocked, damn
Btw. I need more voltage to chipset and agp, you hear anything from DDTUNG about that I need both of them bad , I/O voltage is on 3.2V right now and 3.4 would be perfect