Sempron64 First Look

[sxs112]

E6 Step
Socket754
0.09
Voltage 1.4
add X86-64

[shuRe]

sweet, i have seen these on sale around the UK, here is one instance : http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...04BF7&src=FRO1

could this be it out already? or are they soon to release. And also, how much will that 128k cache kill performance?

P.S. im placing a bet that these can o/c to 2.7G+ or air

Great news for our budget overclockers

[TMM]

128K?! sheesh! thats going to kill performance enormously!

[Jamo]

suprisingly it doesnt, i was playing with a 128k semp the other day and was very suprised by what it could do, its certainly a celeron beater even at 128k

[Rave]

I wonder if running in 64bit mode takes up more space in the cache? 128KB could be more of a limitation with 64bit than running 32bit?

The same problem would affect the new 64bit Celerons, of course.

[CNCL]

I think L2 cache doesn't really have a great deal of impact on performance, this is a smart move by AMD. Would those be available in 939?

[Cooper]

I think L2 cache doesn't really have a great deal of impact on performance, this is a smart move by AMD.

It is indeed. Some of the tests on overclockers.ru prooved it.
p.s. 128kb cache processor has an increase over 256 kb, cos it`s based on DO(90nm) stepping. Others are on CG (130nm).
As you see only WinRAR performance is very dependent on cache size.
P.P.S. It surely is Sempron 64. CPU-Z couldn`t show it`s revision, cos CPUID changed (00020FC0h -> 00020FC2h)

[CNCL]

Hmm that's a very interesting chart, Cooper! Maybe that will give me new insight as to whether sandiego's extra 512kb cache is really worth its price tag.

[ozzimark]

I wonder if running in 64bit mode takes up more space in the cache? 128KB could be more of a limitation with 64bit than running 32bit?

not certain, but i am fairly sure your fear is correct.

also, cache may not do much for benches, but i'm convinced it helps responsiveness and multitasking a lot

[The Coolest]

E6 Step
Socket754
0.09
Voltage 1.4
add X86-64

Hey sxs112, try this version of GCPUID
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/apps/GCPUID64.zip

[i found nemo]

suprisingly it doesnt, i was playing with a 128k semp the other day and was very suprised by what it could do, its certainly a celeron beater even at 128k

lol check ur sig, it's got 128k l2 cache to begin with lol, anyways yes this chip WILL stomp a celeron, not to[:banana::banana::banana::banana:yness] brag but, i'm sure i could hand it to the best of the celeron d's @2350 mhz quite easily....[/:banana::banana::banana::banana:yness] i've seen celly's @ 4000+mhz doin' pi in 40+ seconds

[perkam]

128k is understandable. Seems to be the tradeoff for the 64-bit featureset. Ideally the 0.09k should mean it overclocks well. Though the only thing that's certain with these is that Celeron P4s are gonna get a proper kick in the pants in the official reviews --- which would be a pretty big issue, if this was "ValueSystems.org" LOL j/k.

EDIT: And ofcourse, LETS NOT FORGET TO THANK SXS112 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Perkam

[i found nemo]

don't insult my value system, lol

[longsiew]

Too Bad! I just got my 939 3 months ago. If I know there will be a 64bit Sempron, I am sure that I will wait for the release.

[sxs112]

Hey sxs112, try this version of GCPUID
www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/apps/setup.zip

OK, I have a try of

[i found nemo]

thanx sxs i knew it was comni' but thought it was 3rd quarter????

[thebluesgnr]

thanx sxs i knew it was comni' but thought it was 3rd quarter????

intel forced them to do it earlier.

[sxs112]

thanx sxs i knew it was comni' but thought it was 3rd quarter????

Seem at present, come on stage in mid-July soon, come on stage there will be 2600+, 2800+, 3000+, 3100+ and 3300+,etc..

[The Coolest]

how about a screenshot of GCPUID?

[Jamo]

lol check ur sig, it's got 128k l2 cache to begin with lol, anyways yes this chip WILL stomp a celeron, not to[:banana::banana::banana::banana:yness] brag but, i'm sure i could hand it to the best of the celeron d's @2350 mhz quite easily....[/:banana::banana::banana::banana:yness] i've seen celly's @ 4000+mhz doin' pi in 40+ seconds

actually its a 512k newcastle not a sempron, a quick clicky on my 3d marks would have told you more i think these are going to be quite nice chips, hope they oc well to blow intel even more out the water

[The Coolest]

Updated the public setup file to the latest build, 1.9.0220:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/apps/GCPUID64.zip

[sxs112]

Updated the public setup file to the latest build, 1.9.0220:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/apps/GCPUID64.zip

[perkam]

Good God...its a venice omg lol

That's some bang for the buck.

Perkam

[Bloody_Sorcerer]

haha, L1 and L2 caches are the same size. for some reason i find that funny.
Those graphs of differences by cache size are very interresting. doubling cache seems to provide linear increases in some places, but not everywhere (like 01se)

[The Coolest]

Rev E A64 are either a Venice or San Diego.
There are two revisions of Venice now, the E3 and E6, the E6 is just a new revision.
It also has a really odd BrandID number, I wonder why is that.
This chip has a higher Version mask, the "Version: 4.2" part. In AthlonXPs it usually represented a better clocking chip.
Give it a try, see how far you can push this thing!