AMD FX "Vishera" reviews info (again, after mod mistake)

[informal]

Power draw I believe .

[FlanK3r]

yes (of course, all PC without monitor draw)

[Viking1962]

Sorry my misstake . I meant power consum, not Volt

[keithlm]

Hope you don't think I was doubting your score man... I DO believe you!

Actually **I** was doubting my score.

I ran it and then typed the score since it didn't upload for some reason... and then later I had noticed everyone had a lower score for the same frequency that I ran at... so I definitely want to run again and make sure I wrote the numbers down correctly. I just keep forgetting to do it... and of course work is getting busy right now... just before I take a week off next week.

I will probably just use distilled and a kill coil. At this time I'm trying to decide if I should just buy a XSPC D5 "Raystorm" kit.... or spend about $80.00 more and buy each piece separate. (IF I buy each piece I can buy a slightly better radiator and waterblock... but is slightly better worth that much more money...)

EDIT: Re-ran. Got an even higher score: 367.249 running at 4.8Ghz. (Memory DDR3-2133@9-11-10-28-CR2 and NB/HT at "AUTO".)


OR
#333 at the benchmark site:
http://www.maxwellrender.com/index.php/benchwell

(This newer run is with the newest bios... the last run was older. I wonder if that has added the additional two points.)

BTW: I do keep planning on doing some tweaks on the NB/HT with benchmarking to verify performance... but I just never get around to it.

[Oese]

could you run some aida and other bench with cpu-nb@2200 and then 2600?Wonder how big the diff is...

my nb runs 2600 no problems @ stock volts 1,175v. Have you tried with lower volts?

[informal]

Great scores keithlm . Dave is just a hair faster . Does NB clock have any effect in this benchmark ?

[Viking1962]

I need a better motherboard. I have Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 v1.0 (unstable as hell) To much volt drops. I cant get my FX-835 stable at 4.6 GHz. If I set the volt at 1.48 it drops to 1.34 sometimes. My memory need 1.5 but I have to set to 1.6V to work well . The BIOS LLC funktion that is availabe in revision v1.1 is not there in v1.0. Never Gigabyte again!!! When I collect enough money, I will get Asus Sabertoot R2 next time

[cezar]

About Maxwell bench:

As a bench is not that AMD-friendly: keithlm scores 367.249 w/ his FX-8350 @ 4.8Ghz + DDR3-2133, while a Maxwell user, Filip Filipovi4, scores 411.03 w/ his i7-2600K at the same 4.8GHz / DDR3-2133.
So, 2600K has ~12% better performance over FX-8350 here.

Now, in real world 3D apps as Superkames has already showed us in September, FX-8350 is 7% better than 2600K in 3dsmax 2011 + Vray 1.5SP5 and is up to 8.5% better than 2600K in Cinema4D R13.

So, we are talking of about 20% of difference in perfomance between Maxwell bench and real world 3D apps when comparing 8350 vs. 2600K ....

[Maxforces]

@up

Cinema4D R13

[cezar]

@up

Superkames: FX-8350 is 7% better than 2600K in 3dsmax 2011 + Vray 1.5SP5:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5138329

Superkames: FX-8350 is up to 8.5% better than 2600K in Cinema4D R13, mini-cooper scene:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5139993

[FlanK3r]

have someone idea about new Cinebench avaiability? I want R13 version....

[Maxforces]

@up

Superkames: FX-8350 is 7% better than 2600K in 3dsmax 2011 + Vray 1.5SP5:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5138329

Superkames: FX-8350 is up to 8.5% better than 2600K in Cinema4D R13, mini-cooper scene:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5139993

that happens when you have two operating systems not one.you bench on one hdd and one windows

[Daveburt714]

About Maxwell bench:

As a bench is not that AMD-friendly:

I've been playing with it as a stability/efficiency tool.
Instead of a way to compare performance with Intel CPU's...

[informal]

Dave is correct,benchwell test runs a long time and is a nice stability tester .

[cezar]

@ Dave and Informal

Yeah, I know - it was just a quick thought ...

[Daveburt714]

I will probably just use distilled and a kill coil. At this time I'm trying to decide if I should just buy a XSPC D5 "Raystorm" kit.... or spend about $80.00 more and buy each piece separate. (IF I buy each piece I can buy a slightly better radiator and waterblock... but is slightly better worth that much more money...)

Have you looked at these keithlm?
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/498...iew/index.html

If I was building a new WC rig from scratch this would be toward the top of my list...
It's basically and Apogee (rev 2) block and an MCP35X pump w/heatsink in one nice little package.
Should make for a clean install with good performance!

I've been using Swiftech's WC products for quite some time and have been very happy with the results...

Since your looking to go with water, thought I'd through it out there!

[FlanK3r]

next review of FX-8350...Win7+Win8 and games, comparsion Zambezi vs Vishera

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/pr...e-slusny-vykon

[Mechanical Man]

Muropaketti did some test clock to clock on zambezi, vishera, thuban and ivy-b. Here is google translate link.

http://translate.google.fi/translate...htuurit-45-ghz

What can be found is, ivy destroys. Vishera about par clock to clok with thuban. Vishera naturally has much more headroom for clocking so it can be worth to change.

[Maxforces]

Some clock to clock, full review next week
Games


Programs

[xdan]

Hi guys!
Can someone help me with some info about some voltages(new on AM3+ and Bulldozer/Vishera).
I have an FX 8320+ Sabertooth 990FX rev.1 latest bios.
I have 4 NB voltages and i don't know how much it's safe and how they work.
CPU/NB offset voltage ? ( NB voltage which help to raise NB frecuency?) i set 1.35v.
NB Voltage - standard 1.100v?
NB HT Voltage - standard 1.2v set above 1.3v helped me boot memory at 2400?
NB 1.8 voltage?

Also what is VDDR? Act's like VTT for Intel or helps memory?


For now i can stabilize memory at 2280-2300 8-10-8 but i can stabilize at 2400 even 10-11-11-28 with some memory that on Z77 can do 2400 9-11-9 fully stable( G.Skill Pi 2200C7 it's the memory).
The board or the cpu can't do 2400? Or i didn't set good the voltages.

Sorry of offtopic but this thread seems more active.

[informal]

Well it can be both a picky CPU and some of the settings. Maybe some of the Vishera gurus will join in soon to help you. VDDR is a voltage for memory I believe,so that one is very important for dram clocking.
Now that you have both Vishera and i5 is there a chance to do some comparative gaming benchmarks(with the same GPU) ?

PS In the above link I gave you,hardocp has some nice explanations on the option in your BIOS.

[xdan]

For the moment i have no gpu worth to mention, expecting to buy some soon(may be on black friday) but no more than 7850 not sure if it's enough to make some difference between an 3570k and FX 8320.
As for daily use stuff (not doing heavy stuff video encoding or rendering) Pilledriver seems pretty much the same as IB. Mention that it's a little faster in archiving/dezarchiving/ light video editing.

[tbone8ty]

cpu/nb at 1.35v seems high no?

I never touch nb, nb ht, nb 1.8v

[wez]

cpu/nb at 1.35v seems high no?

I never touch nb, nb ht, nb 1.8v

I run 1.35-1.36v for 2650mhz imc on a 8350. I'd keep pushing as long as the freq keep scaling with voltage, and heat load can be kept under control/not sacrificing cpu core freq.

Upping the voltage for nb/sb/ht can help with stability. Running high ht ref is generally where you'd notice a difference. And if you are getting weird crashes/bsods that you cant really figure out, a decent voltage bump on these might do the trick (++0.2v).

Regarding VDDR, I haven't touched it when running vishera. But I'd be surprised if it did anything noticeable, at least with air/water.

[nunchucka]

I run 1.35-1.36v for 2650mhz imc on a 8350. I'd keep pushing as long as the freq keep scaling with voltage, and heat load can be kept under control/not sacrificing cpu core freq.

Upping the voltage for nb/sb/ht can help with stability. Running high ht ref is generally where you'd notice a difference. And if you are getting weird crashes/bsods that you cant really figure out, a decent voltage bump on these might do the trick (++0.2v).

Regarding VDDR, I haven't touched it when running vishera. But I'd be surprised if it did anything noticeable, at least with air/water.

i bumped nb/ht by 0.1v to get stable at 2600 on both. i am at 4875mhz with 325 bus speed at 1.488v on this 8320 but with win 7 32bit i cant put up the numbers a 64bit os has. its still plenty quick tho. openGL in cinebench 11.5 is 62.10 points.