MaximusIV-Extreme Thread

[zsamz_]

i only have the gene-z. Its a cool board tho, pretty cheap and that is good about it.

the board is not only cool
yes the price is cheap i woulda paid more for it
it does things that my ud7 could not do

i'm really surprised you bought it since you get gigabut freebies lol

[sin0822]

who said i bought it?

[andressergio]

who said i bought it?

[sin0822]

it wasn't a sample and i didn't buy it, a friend gave it to me because he went back to X58 gulftown and i am going to sell it after i use it and give him the money.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

it wasn't a sample and i didn't buy it, a friend gave it to me because he went back to X58 gulftown and i am going to sell it after i use it and give him the money.

maybe you should keep the gene and sell one of the giga boards, after all it does things your UD7 can not and it is half of the price

[sin0822]

lol nah ill keep the UD7 no offense, besides come a few months things will change

[Dumo]

It is better to stay course and not make wave on someone else beach

The ongoing competition between MIVE and UD7 will intensify with 2700K......board that can take a 2700K to 6Ghz+ benchable will take the cake. Lol

(Sorry OOT)...I like this Crosshair V formula for AMD...haven't try 990FX UD7 though

[sin0822]

well from my standpoint and the reason i was talking about the future a bit, is because of SB-E, we are going to see same frequencies prob as current SB CPUs, just with quad channel and better PCI-E. i think most extreme benchers will switch from SB to SB-E, in that case its a whole other ball game. But i don't know if the SB-E will OC upto 6ghz for their best CPUs of the line, but we can hope right? If that is the case tho, then you will see all attention shifted towards SB-E, just as it happened in the P55 to X58.

BTW loud, why would i use the M4g-z if i have a sniper 2 in my main rig? lol

anyways X79 is another ball game, hopefully we will see some great products, interesting asus hasn't shown any pics yet.

[badatgames18]

It is better to stay course and not make wave on someone else beach

The ongoing competition between MIVE and UD7 will intensify with 2700K......board that can take a 2700K to 6Ghz+ benchable will take the cake. Lol

(Sorry OOT)...I like this Crosshair V formula for AMD...haven't try 990FX UD7 though

the 2700k will just be slightly higher binned silicone right? and 100Mhz higher stock clock. akin to 920-->930
i'm thinking they will have the same type of mhz wall, right
maybe the 2700k will need less volts to achieve the same clocks

[andressergio]

the 2700k will just be slightly higher binned silicone right? and 100Mhz higher stock clock. akin to 920-->930
i'm thinking they will have the same type of mhz wall, right
maybe the 2700k will need less volts to achieve the same clocks

yes but i dont think intel tests max multi just like always was, same silicon waffer if chip passes 3Ghz well its a 2.8GHz, it it passes 3.2Ghz its a 3.0Ghz, sort like that

I2700K could be as nice as a nicer I2600K inmo

[pazza316]

Hi again all, Can first ask does this board support quad SLI ? as in 4 GTX 580? and what do we all think about SLI on this board for gaming not benching?? Also which system do you think would be better for games, this with sandy at 5ghz or the X58 rampage 3 by ASUS with gulftown at 4.6ghz. Both systems I would be using TRI or Quad SLI.

Thanks for your opinions on this.

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

well from my standpoint and the reason i was talking about the future a bit, is because of SB-E, we are going to see same frequencies prob as current SB CPUs, just with quad channel and better PCI-E. i think most extreme benchers will switch from SB to SB-E, in that case its a whole other ball game. But i don't know if the SB-E will OC upto 6ghz for their best CPUs of the line, but we can hope right? If that is the case tho, then you will see all attention shifted towards SB-E, just as it happened in the P55 to X58.

BTW loud, why would i use the M4g-z if i have a sniper 2 in my main rig? lol

anyways X79 is another ball game, hopefully we will see some great products, interesting asus hasn't shown any pics yet.

Oh I don't know, maybe it's because it tends to clock better, has a much more polished bios, the 2133 divider actually works with a broad range of different memory, and lets not forgot the price

Plus I like the fact that Raja and Shamino are there to answer any technical details and provide excellent support whenever certain issues need to be addressed (3d01 bios from Andre)

Honestly I have never been an Asus fan prior to P67/Z68 and usually have used nothing but Gigabyte boards with no problems, but I think Asus's implementation of P67/Z68 was executed very well, whereas Gigabyte. . . . well not so much. Hopefully they redeem themselves with X79, but until then I think I would like to try one of their AMD boards (UD5/7).

and sin, I don't even have a M4G, just the P67 M4, but everything I have seen seems to indicate it is a nice board despite the fact that it is a MATX board and has no NF200, and as for the Sniper 2, I think there is a larger portion of overclocker's on these forums than gamers, and having to pay extra for things like the Killer NIC and Creative audio is a moot point to them

[andressergio]

Hi again all, Can first ask does this board support quad SLI ? as in 4 GTX 580? and what do we all think about SLI on this board for gaming not benching?? Also which system do you think would be better for games, this with sandy at 5ghz or the X58 rampage 3 by ASUS with gulftown at 4.6ghz. Both systems I would be using TRI or Quad SLI.

Thanks for your opinions on this.

pazza i tried TRI SLI it just dont worth it

3DM11

1 card 8300k
2 card 14360k
3 card 15k+

as u add perf gets lower...best thing u can do is stay on SLI as nvidia is optimizing it on 285.XXX drivers

of course inmo

for this reasong im selling my third card, for 24/7 just no worth it

[Dumo]

We never know what 2700K will bring but one thing for sure is any cpu inside a retail box has 50/50 chances to clock 59X+

Actually, Intel with its billion $$ can make it happen...anything

[kpablo]

Hi again all, Can first ask does this board support quad SLI ? as in 4 GTX 580? and what do we all think about SLI on this board for gaming not benching?? Also which system do you think would be better for games, this with sandy at 5ghz or the X58 rampage 3 by ASUS with gulftown at 4.6ghz. Both systems I would be using TRI or Quad SLI.

Thanks for your opinions on this.

Nop, 4 Way SLI is not supported by this mobo or any of LGA 1155 motherboard...

[l0ud_sil3nc3]

pazza i tried TRI SLI it just dont worth it

3DM11

1 card 8300k
2 card 14360k
3 card 15k+

as u add perf gets lower...best thing u can do is stay on SLI as nvidia is optimizing it on 285.XXX drivers

of course inmo

for this reasong im selling my third card, for 24/7 just no worth it

wow didn't realize the scaling was so bad with tri sli sergio, seems the sweet spot is simply SLI, less is more in this case huh?

[pazza316]

Guys for gaming do I stay on SB with this board or go back to X58 with gulf??? opinions please especially from those who have owned both.

[st0ned]

Guys for gaming do I stay on SB with this board or go back to X58 with gulf??? opinions please especially from those who have owned both.

A well clocked SB will kick any gulf butt in gaming...

[xarot]

A well clocked SB will kick any gulf butt in gaming...

How well clocked? My R3E has been for a month in RMA now and I'm getting bored soon..

Currently using my old trusty i7-965 at stock with dual 580 SLI - everything works quite fine. But I have i7 990X 4.5 GHz HT off, R3E, 3x2 GB 1800 HyperX, 3xGTX 580..I think that I don't have much perfomance boost when going over 4.5 with my current 990X. R3E has been quite a piece of junk for me. :P and 580 3-way SLI just runs damn hot on air.

Should I go for MIVE/-Z and 2500/2600K from Gulf with 3 cards since I mainly do gaming with my rig? I wouldn't want to get a "downgrade" either (6 to 4 cores). And X79 is coming out soon as well..

Does MIVE have hot IOH (or NB?) temps with 3 cards? This was a huge problem with my R3E.

[Leeghoofd]

Honestly you don't need more than 4-4.5Ghz for gaming... I'm still on my gulfie at 4.2, notice no difference with the SB rig at 4.8... both with GTX480s... SB is less power hungry, less heat and cheaper. That is what makes it interesting...

I would wait what X79 brings, but Tri SLI on SB is not a good idea...

[sin0822]

Oh I don't know, maybe it's because it tends to clock better, has a much more polished bios, the 2133 divider actually works with a broad range of different memory, and lets not forgot the price

Plus I like the fact that Raja and Shamino are there to answer any technical details and provide excellent support whenever certain issues need to be addressed (3d01 bios from Andre)

Honestly I have never been an Asus fan prior to P67/Z68 and usually have used nothing but Gigabyte boards with no problems, but I think Asus's implementation of P67/Z68 was executed very well, whereas Gigabyte. . . . well not so much. Hopefully they redeem themselves with X79, but until then I think I would like to try one of their AMD boards (UD5/7).

and sin, I don't even have a M4G, just the P67 M4, but everything I have seen seems to indicate it is a nice board despite the fact that it is a MATX board and has no NF200, and as for the Sniper 2, I think there is a larger portion of overclocker's on these forums than gamers, and having to pay extra for things like the Killer NIC and Creative audio is a moot point to them

I wont disagree that GB could have done better with LGA1155, and i do agree the Sniper 2 is a waste of money for overclockers, but that doesn't mean it can't OC and have good 3D efficiency.

The M4G-Z OCes the same as my UD7 does, BLCK is like 0.05mhz higher because of the skews i guess, but its not the same board as the M4E. Its VRM is much different, except for the same PWM and same inductors, the M4G-Z is closer to the P8PZ68-Deluxe with a three transistor design using TrechFETs, which are very good quality anyways, the M4Gz uses phase doublers like the Sniper 2 and GB boards(the M4Gz uses 4 phase of the Chil PWM, i believe its an 8-phase Chil PWM), those 4 phases goto 4 different ICs, each of those ICs contain 2 drivers and 1 doubler, so 1 IC per 2 phases. its actually a neat design, but its not the M4E, the M4E uses different FETs and one of those Proadlizer caps as well as Chil drivers directly hooked to each set of 4 FETs per phase(their use those IRF CanPAK OptiMOS if i am not mistaken, that is correct right Raja?). the SF is divided into half on the M4Gz, hence the max 550khz SF, but it makes no difference, transient performance is probably very high like on the M4E and LLC is better than UD7.I will give it that. While the M4Gz might require a bit, maybe 0.02v less than my UD7 under load, and since the UD7 has to set a bit higher voltage b/c of its LLC, yea I can say i can get the same clocks on a bit better voltage. But my max clocks aren't more than 10-20mhz different and that is just because of BLCk Skew. i actually had better OC luck with the Sniper 2, its LLC works just like it should, even with 10 levels. I haven't really done much more testing than that on the Sniper 2 tho except for max clock, it was actually very easy and simple to OC, except it has no buttons. There is no BS in that statement.

i am not going to talk bad about ASUS nor GB, for the past 5 months i haven't said anything bad about ASUS. i am just saying i am more interested in X79.

[steve4king]

i only have the gene-z. Its a cool board tho, pretty cheap and that is good about it.

Have you tried pushing the Gene-Z much?

The differences between the MIVE-z and MIVG-z look relatively minor once you get past the format and connector difference.

For someone who does not intend to utilize more than one pci-e slot.. How does this board differ in OC ability and stability?
The only attribute I found that should affect it's OC would be the 2phase vs 3phase memory power. How significant is this?
Would any of you miss the deprecated OC tools listed? They seem nice but might go unused anyway.


A full list of spec differences can be found at the link below..
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...mus-IV-Extreme

[sin0822]

yea i don't think the difference between the M4E and M4G will be much in the end unless you are benching. yes i did push it, i messed with it and the BLCk skews too like in shaminos guide on KPC.

[andressergio]

wow didn't realize the scaling was so bad with tri sli sergio, seems the sweet spot is simply SLI, less is more in this case huh?

yes G third card added its like OMG cant be so bad, look Cole on the nvida thread

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...05#post4958705

he is at 1030 CORE on tri SLI of GTX580 and at 5700 CHIPS getting 15k

look at me at 5GHZ with 981 core 14362...

[Praz]

yes G third card added its like OMG cant be so bad, look Cole on the nvida thread

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...05#post4958705

he is at 1030 CORE on tri SLI of GTX580 and at 5700 CHIPS getting 15k

look at me at 5GHZ with 981 core 14362...

Something doesn't seem right. I get 15K with 3 570s at 5GHz.


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