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    Monowall NIC compatibility

    Quick question for you guys - does Monowall support the Realtek 8111E network adapter? I haven't found anything conclusive yes or no. Looking to load monowall onto an AMD Zacate mini-itx box and the Asus board has that NIC chip on it. The board has only one PCIe slot so that's going to be needed for the second NIC (which if you have any particular recommendations for that, that would be great).
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    I can't verify this, but I would expect it to. The 8111e is part of a series that has been around for a long while with strong support, so I would say that it should be covered.
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    I always recommend Intel NICs. Something like an Intel PRO/1000 CT would work nicely and is supported. The key to finding compatibility on projects like this is to find what OS and revision they're based on. Monowall 1.3 is based on FreeBSD 4.11. Here is BSD's HCL for the i386 version which Monowall uses:
    http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11....html#ETHERNET

    I don't see the Realtek IC listed. It's an extremely common controller at the moment, but it may be that the version of FreeBSD Monowall 1.3 is based on is too old. FreeBSD is on release 8.2 now after all. I'd really suggest ditching Monowall and going with pfSense instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
    I always recommend Intel NICs. Something like an Intel PRO/1000 CT would work nicely and is supported. The key to finding compatibility on projects like this is to find what OS and revision they're based on. Monowall 1.3 is based on FreeBSD 4.11. Here is BSD's HCL for the i386 version which Monowall uses:
    http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11....html#ETHERNET

    I don't see the Realtek IC listed.
    Hard when there is only one expansion slot because it is a mini-ITX box otherwise I would put two intel NICs in. That's the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Hard when there is only one expansion slot because it is a mini-ITX box otherwise I would put two intel NICs in. That's the issue.
    Regardless of what you end up doing, you'll need at least two NICs. For the extra one, I'd suggest an Intel. I'm not sure what you're getting at by such a reply when I didn't suggest adding two.

    If you're dead set on using Monowall, you can pick up an older dual-port "server" Intel 100-base NIC on eBay for not too much money which should be supported provided your ITX board is one with PCI instead of PCIe. I suspect that may not be the case. Ultimately, your options are limited and both directions indicate you should consider different software.
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    I thought you meant to add two and just not use the onboard Realtek. My bad.

    I was hoping to use this Asus zacate board as the intel atom boards are similar cost, but zacate smacks atom as far as performance goes. But if I have to get an atom to get the hardware needed, then I guess I will.

    Note this isn't for me. This is work related, and my boss wants to use monowall.
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    Get a dual port intel card. (like this one... http://cgi.ebay.com/DELL-X3959-INTEL...item33663def71 )

    Pfsense is based on free bsd and they recommend intel cards I only found 1 reference to realtek and that was an 80XX driver


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    The Intel 82572 controller isn't listed on the HCL. I don't think you'll find a *lot* of PCIe cards that are supported on a build of FreeBSD that old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monowall/Relevant FreeBSD HCL
    ...Broadcom BCM4401 based Fast Ethernet adapters...
    Oh wow, that's the newed Broadcom they support... and it's a dinosaur. Well, for tech.

    I say just get a different linux distro and a firewall application, or another open source firewall/OS if you're inclined, I know others exist. That HCL is totally ridiculous.

    Edit: But you know, I'm positive I've seen a number of monowall installations in the last few years that were on current hardware. And I know that at least some of them used whatever NICs were on-board and not Intel ones. Might actually work anyway. I say buy the motherboard and give it a go. If it doesn't work, just install linux and a firewall program.
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    the RL driver in bsd (in most open source os) is bad.

    Grab an intel card the FXP driver is far far better.

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