-=Dfi Infinty&LanParty Rev B Faq and more=-

[uwackme]

That is somthing I havent seen yet... mouse jumpies.... I assume a plain PS/2 mouse this was on?

I did actually... and it freaked me out, just as I installed the INF for testing.....turned out to be the wireless mouse battery What timing.

On the Vdimm-mod connected thing, perhaps its electrical noise vs the way you are doing it? I use 30ga solid Kynar rework wire for all mod's and keep the length as SHORT as possible, looks to be a 1/2" max length on each run, glue the POT to the cap next to the little square controller chip...which NEEDS a heatsink on it BTW. Position that sink so that the resistor for the mod isnt overlapped. Grab the ground on the "EC54" missing capacitor mounting hole. If the mere presence of the pot in the circuit throws off the stability, I dare say the Vdimm circuit is out of balance at high FSB....maybe near some overvoltprotection point, or just at the edge of the stable operating window of the regulator. IE: there is more to switching regulator stability then just the output voltage.

How is anyone getting 3D stability beyond 230-ish Mhz? Ive got some buttkickin ram here and 230Mhz 2x 512M @3.2V is the best it will do.... though each stick ALONE does 245Mhz with the same specs. Hell of a drop for engaging dual-channel (and 16 more chips load on the control lines).

Nice thing with this latest bios..... 245Mhz signle stick, not a peep of trouble lan/sound/mouse/usb.

When I speak of stability, I mean HOURS of FarCry/AArmy/Everquest in the most demanding circumstances, plus prime stable for HOURS, and memtest test#5 stable for 100+ passes error free before we even both to go to WinXP/2K.

Funny thing, my ram does NOT scale down? 11,3,3,3,2.5 just doesnt wanna yeild any real improvement, where as on my CH5 it used to be good for 5-10Mhz more FSB.

[SAE]

Yeah. Plain old MS Intellimouse optical on PS2 port...

And the vdimm mod's only interfering with something with the newer bioses... I am at 1-21 now and that seems to be the only one the board likes And with that I cannot up the fsb through software... Locks up quickly.

Did you try slot 1 +3 combined. Those were the best slots for my KHX3200, and always put the best stick in slot 3.

BH-5 often does weird thing as it did on my old TW board... at T(RC) 9 T(RFC) 12 is was stable, at higher settings (slower) it wasn't... lowering timings did not gain me sth, too...

I am currently gaming Splintercell 2 at 11.5x255 and it's working well so far. But that's not satifying as it should do much higher clocks stably

[Lastviking]

Some info from me..

Runed a Xp-m 2400(35w , Aqyha "Bad stepping") @9x259Fsb 24/7 without problems (cpu interface:optimal = not losing sound,usb).

changed it for a Xp-m 2400(35w,IQZFA) tried to run 250fsb+ but failed mouse looked and sound with (cpu interface:optimal)

Changed bios to "B505-C18" the looking problem disipered but sometimes the compter crashed... it´s time to test a new one know again.. Tec will help you to raise higher fsb in clockgen but i don´t know 24/7 speed. (Taiwan boards).

The LP board is wierd.. Maybe i try a AN7 and keep the best LP board.. AN7 geeting stronger and stronger..


4-29 bios -> have cas 3 settings = default = bad if you don´t have any cas 3 sticks to change the timing. bh5 cant run cas 3

[uwackme]

More fiddling around.....240Mhz x10; 2x 512M 3D stable

AGP bus latency 64, AGP controller latency 96

11,2,2,2,2.0,9,12;6,5,6,3,3,5,6;e,e,f,d;6,7,6,7,6, 7

1.85Vcore, 1.8Vagp, 1.8Vdd, 3.3Vdimm

Stick "B" in dimm1, stick "E" in dimm3

Too hot to test higher than 2.4Ghz..... tommorrow.

[SAE]

Originally posted by uwackme
More fiddling around.....240Mhz x10; 2x 512M 3D stable

AGP bus latency 64, AGP controller latency 96

11,2,2,2,2.0,9,12;6,5,6,3,3,5,6;e,e,f,d;6,7,6,7,6, 7

1.85Vcore, 1.8Vagp, 1.8Vdd, 3.3Vdimm

Stick "B" in dimm1, stick "E" in dimm3

Too hot to test higher than 2.4Ghz..... tommorrow.

Well done :thumbsup:

That's helluva variety of settings... do you set the AGP things with 8rdavcore?

[uwackme]

Yep, was using 8rdavcore version 0.8.7.

WOuld like to find the AGP bus latency in WPCREDIT so I can do it automatically on startup. I know the AGP controller latency is bus#2dev#0Func#0 offset 0D.

I backed off it though, to default and still stable, so I dont really need it.

I need to research the "6,5,6,3,3,5,6" to find WHICH one(s) were responsible for the boost.... could be very valuable information for Oskar, in tracking down high FSB agp stability.

For cooling, I like the idea of dimm1 and dimm3 better than 2,3. An added bonus.

Anyone know how to set MBM5 up properly for the DFI? seems to not be quite there.

[SAE]

Originally posted by uwackme
Yep, was using 8rdavcore version 0.8.7.

WOuld like to find the AGP bus latency in WPCREDIT so I can do it automatically on startup. I know the AGP controller latency is bus#2dev#0Func#0 offset 0D.

I backed off it though, to default and still stable, so I dont really need it.

I need to research the "6,5,6,3,3,5,6" to find WHICH one(s) were responsible for the boost.... could be very valuable information for Oskar, in tracking down high FSB agp stability.

For cooling, I like the idea of dimm1 and dimm3 better than 2,3. An added bonus.

Anyone know how to set MBM5 up properly for the DFI? seems to not be quite there.

I am gonna test those additional timings later

And nice info on the AGP bus latency... :thumbsup:

For MBM there's a new file to set the right settings in MBM... if you wanna try. It's from the DFI forums.

[uwackme]

Its confirmed, I put my brothers machine up, changed to the same settings, runs 240Mhz x10,5 3D stable like a champ....was stuck at 230Mhz previously.

Not sure the AGP thing is needed anylonger, but agp controller latency is 96 in the bios now. Bus is back to default 32.

Maybe Oskar can put both inthe bios menu's...and PCI too ;-)

[masterpain]

Originally posted by uwackme
Its confirmed, I put my brothers machine up, changed to the same settings, runs 240Mhz x10,5 3D stable like a champ....was stuck at 230Mhz previously.

Not sure the AGP thing is needed anylonger, but agp controller latency is 96 in the bios now. Bus is back to default 32.

Maybe Oskar can put both inthe bios menu's...and PCI too ;-)

great news!
i have the same problems with my board when the fsb is at >240 mhz fsb. i will check these settings when my corsair pc 433 rev 1.1 arrives. i hope that it is bh-5.

[Lastviking]

More info..

B429-121 are rock solid @250fsb+ 24/7 games and more no losing sound,usb.


B505-C18 are not rock solid @<-240fsb 24/7 reboting and more.




Best so fair "B429-121"

[Malves]

any link for the B429-121?

[SAE]

Originally posted by Malves
any link for the B429-121?

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...4&page=1&pp=30

...should be there

[Malves]

No luck! The old 1/31 is still the most stable BIOS for me. Funny thou, I've never had any issues with LAN, etc, etc at high FSB.

[SAE]

Originally posted by Malves
No luck! The old 1/31 is still the most stable BIOS for me. Funny thou, I've never had any issues with LAN, etc, etc at high FSB.

Maybe cause CPC off is not this aggressive... ?!

[Massive]

Originally posted by SAE
I am gonna test those additional timings later

And nice info on the AGP bus latency... :thumbsup:

For MBM there's a new file to set the right settings in MBM... if you wanna try. It's from the DFI forums.

how to use that ini file for MBM?

ANd what the right setting for AGP latency...

I use DFI LP Rev B with BIOS 1-31 by Oscar Wu...
It kinds a strange...it won't boot on 250Mhz unless I boot it first with the relaks memory timing..and then go to BIOS and change it to tight timing (I use 11-2-2-2-2-"13-15")...anything tigher then the "13-15" make make system won't boot on 250Mhz....

I got questions for u guys also...
My USB 1-2 is not working after I flashed the BIOS with 1-31...I don't realy sure the BIOS is the problem...
Do u have any suggestions on the USB 1-2?...

[SAE]

Originally posted by Massive
how to use that ini file for MBM?

ANd what the right setting for AGP latency...

I use DFI LP Rev B with BIOS 1-31 by Oscar Wu...
It kinds a strange...it won't boot on 250Mhz unless I boot it first with the relaks memory timing..and then go to BIOS and change it to tight timing (I use 11-2-2-2-2-"13-15")...anything tigher then the "13-15" make make system won't boot on 250Mhz....

I got questions for u guys also...
My USB 1-2 is not working after I flashed the BIOS with 1-31...I don't realy sure the BIOS is the problem...
Do u have any suggestions on the USB 1-2?...

You should open and read it... the upper section of the file is the description of it...

AGP latency should be set to 96 to 255... 255 is the fastest, but the AGP could take and hold the bus for a very long period of 255 clock cycles... could also be negative...

Timing-wise DFI NF2 boards are really picky. And each board likes other settings

USB (peripherals at all) ain't in a very stable condition with the 1-31 in my experiences. It always drops peripherals very quickly... Use 1-21 to get stable peripherals.

[Massive]

Originally posted by SAE
You should open and read it... the upper section of the file is the description of it...

AGP latency should be set to 96 to 255... 255 is the fastest, but the AGP could take and hold the bus for a very long period of 255 clock cycles... could also be negative...

Timing-wise DFI NF2 boards are really picky. And each board likes other settings

USB (peripherals at all) ain't in a very stable condition with the 1-31 in my experiences. It always drops peripherals very quickly... Use 1-21 to get stable peripherals.

I've done for the voltage.INI for the MBM...thanks, I gues I'm not reading it well

Ok then....I try 1-21 later...but a lot people saying in this forum that 1-31 would be the best OCing BIOS....will the 1-21 decrease OC or it is vary between board too?

So you're saying that your board could do 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 at 250Mhz?

[Jaan]

Originally posted by Massive ...
So you're saying that your board could do 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 at 250Mhz? [/B]

My board too And with CH-5 mem @3,3V
taimings: 5-2-2-2-2-9-15-0-0-3-3-0-2-2-e-e-f, CPC on, APIC-on


and just for fun Damn, I wont CL1,5...

[SAE]

Originally posted by Massive
I've done for the voltage.INI for the MBM...thanks, I gues I'm not reading it well

Ok then....I try 1-21 later...but a lot people saying in this forum that 1-31 would be the best OCing BIOS....will the 1-21 decrease OC or it is vary between board too?

So you're saying that your board could do 11-2-2-2-2-9-12 at 250Mhz?

1-21 won't decrease your oc as it's more stable than 1-31. 1-31 uses the 133MHz romsip table for 200MHz. So it's way tighter in chipset timings, but decreases overall stability badly (at least with CPC on)

1-21 has probably a lower max clock in fsb (due to apic), but stability at max is superiour.

My ram did up to 267 11-2-2-2-2.0-9-12 at 3.45V on the good (dead) LP B. 264 was benching stable (at over 3GHz). Best clocks I achieved with multi 12x and 260 fsb though.

[Massive]

Originally posted by Jaan
My board too And with CH-5 mem @3,3V
taimings: 5-2-2-2-2-9-15-0-0-3-3-0-2-2-e-e-f, CPC on, APIC-on


and just for fun Damn, I wont CL1,5...

not bad at all for CH5 ..but go try for 5-2-2-2-2-9-12...see if it still works
I've had my CH5 which can do TRCD 2 too but I trade it with a pair of BH5 chip

I haven't try 1-12 yet...
Yor Mobo dead because of too high FSB or what?

[SAE]

A mobo cannot die of too high fsb, but of too much modding and reworking

[uwackme]

Ive converted to Infinity.... weird, MBM gets the -5V wrong? I even tried the DFI voltage.ini file, same. Also, does this board measure Vdimm? the "core1" reading is the same as "core0". on Abit it was Vdimm.

Other than that everything is great.

[Jaan]

Originally posted by Massive
not bad at all for CH5 ..but go try for 5-2-2-2-2-9-12...see if it still works ...

I've tryed- it works, but 9-15 is definitely faster for me.
And 5-2-2-2 is a little bit faster than 11-2-2-2 (in PiFast)
chips:

[SAE]

Originally posted by Jaan
I've tryed- it works, but 9-15 is definitely faster for me.
And 5-2-2-2 is a little bit faster than 11-2-2-2 (in PiFast)
chips:

I also noticed that... 5 is faster in pifast, but not as stable at high fsb as 11... I could not even boot into windows at 5-2-2-2-2.0-9-12... at 5-2-2-2-2.0-12-12 I could...

[Jaan]

Originally posted by SAE
I also noticed that... 5 is faster in pifast, but not as stable at high fsb as 11... I could not even boot into windows at 5-2-2-2-2.0-9-12... at 5-2-2-2-2.0-12-12 I could...

You talking about BH or CH-5 now?
And you mean you can boot with 11-2-2-2-2-9-12? and fsb was..?

I've seen 270Mhz in windows@ 5-2-2-2, but it freeze in a minute.
260 is quite stable@ 260Mhz, 5-2-2-2-2-12-15/3,4V screen