Feser's New Lineup

[rheydt]

is the guy, sitting in the car, designer of the admiral radiators?

[coolhandluke41]

Oh NOOOO!

Russia first!

the funny thing about this pic is ..the car pictured here have air cooled engine

[Aphex_Tom_9]

hahaha that doesn't even make sense

[coolhandluke41]

hahaha that doesn't even make sense

here

[hwlabs]

"In Soviet Russia -car drives you!"

[Aphex_Tom_9]

here

oh no no, not the car, the 2nd floating radiator hanging off on the side and who's the "driver"? is it the feserman?

[coolhandluke41]

oh no no, not the car, the 2nd floating radiator hanging off on the side and who's the "driver"? is it the feserman?

I think they both work for Feser probably salesman...the pilot looks disoriented ,no wonder we have been waiting and waiting ,..

[NaeKuh]

why oh why are you guys waiting for a radiator that is going to take us backwards to circular tubes?

Are we going to ignore everything we learned in H2O up to now?
Go backwards... and pretend its not been tested?

Im curious to see how they pull this off..

[coolhandluke41]

@NaeKuh
That picture that just disappeared, doesn't prove a da..n thing ,it only apply's to one type of tube


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12 months ago two loops was better than one...

[NaeKuh]

@NaeKuh
That picture that just disappeared, doesn't prove a da..n thing ,it only apply's to one type of tube


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12 months ago two loops was better than one...

well i didnt want to shatter this thread...

And the surface area between the rad classes you showed is completely off.
To class a Mora with a RX360 is just wrong...

That is just silly, anyway u present it.

Watercooling isnt about bigger the better.... trust me, ive been there.... its about efficiency of your entire system.
Having all monster parts does not equal the pefect h2o system.

[coolhandluke41]

NaeKuh i'm not going to argue with you .Everyone is entitled to his own opinion , "Watercooling isnt about bigger the better.... trust me, ive been there" and yes ive been there to-the amount of someone's posts doesn't reflect on anything
all i care is noise and if you thing this is " monster" .... " That is just silly"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4rDF69S9mk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pmY-...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhxRndIWFus&NR=1
The last test someone did was on mo-ra2
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226445

[Church]

NaeKuh: let's say, that with insane rad area MoRa more then makes up to it's shortcomings of using round tubes. And even while two common triples might cool with similar efficiency, two externally mounted triples with extra interconnecting tubing imho will look less neat then single MoRa on case side, even worse so for three external triple rads. So overall i still see MoRa as competitive product with it's own niche (i'm too lazy to compare pricing, how much MoRa3 vs 2*RX360+2 extra fittings cost).
As for feser rads .. it's hard to compare apples to oranges regarding their internal tube structure .. yes, they are also round shaped which is less efficient, but they also have internal fins, not smooth internal wall surface .. so at the end it might compensate that aswell.
I hope TFC will hurry a bit with admiral release, not to consider purchase ones, but to finally end with actual test numbers all arguing/speculating lasting for many months, be them worse or better then for common rads

[SpuTnicK]

but they also have internal fins, not smooth internal wall surface ...

Where did that come from?

[Church]

Where did that come from?

From posts/info in this thread? :P
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[Waterlogged]

I'm thinking they had problems maintaining the stability of the Unobatinium274 for the inner tubes.

[NaeKuh]

NaeKuh: let's say, that with insane rad area MoRa more then makes up to it's shortcomings of using round tubes.

no if this was a pissing contest with a mora, id bring out this guy.



Trust me.. bigger AINT better.

And that double feser 480 stack is most certainly bigger, because it has thin pure copper channels.




So i can say, been there, done that... nope.. its not the direction one should go in H2O unless u have to watercool unobtainium.

[Church]

Waterlogged: they might have calculated that and made it so that in each of those tubes amount of unobtainium used never crosses critical mass. As for radiation itself, it probably can be used with some smart accessories that convert part of it to UV lighting - imagine that, you don't even have to power LEDs anymore and have rad shine in green slimy light 7*24. And are you that against gills, extra legs and hands you might have grown by using such rad? I sure do miss sometimes not having 3rd hand .

[NaeKuh]

Waterlogged: they might have calculated that and made it so that in each of those tubes amount of unobtainium used never crosses critical mass. As for radiation itself, it probably can be used with some smart accessories that convert part of it to UV lighting - imagine that, you don't even have to power LEDs anymore and have rad shine in green slimy light 7*24. And are you that against gills, extra legs and hands you might have grown by using such rad? I sure do miss sometimes not having 3rd hand .

:O

I ninja'd this post so quickly, that the blur u saw.. you thought waterlogg'd?



Serious note..

There was nothing wrong with feser's old radiators.
Infact i like them... they have a longer warm up period then conventional radiators because of the copper core.
But they were none the less excellent radiators.

I dont see why feser is going backwards, they had a kick ass radiator.

[Waterlogged]

:O

I ninja'd this post so quickly, that the blur u saw.. you thought waterlogg'd?



Serious note..

There was nothing wrong with feser's old radiators.
Infact i like them... they have a longer warm up period then conventional radiators because of the copper core.
But they were none the less excellent radiators.

I dont see why feser is going backwards, they had a kick ass radiator.

Up 1 post from your last one bud.

For a good laugh, go read page 12 (mid page). . .I had a bit of fun.

[Church]

NaeKuh: imho because they need something really THE most effective to partially counter bad effect of lying initial PR campaign of "thermochill killers". It's as you said - they were good rads. But when it's advertised with widely known in public as not true claims, it serves as anti-advertisement effect further tarnishing their not exactly bright PR image (made such by also triebwerks as THE LC fans (i wonder if they'll try to release something better in this area aswell?)/copied fitting design/shills at forum and overall pushy marketing).

[SpuTnicK]

I'm thinking they had problems maintaining the stability of the Unobatinium274 for the inner tubes.

They are not using it anymore, its too expensive

The nano-coating is a problem itself. Because, the inner structure of the tubes is not guaranteed a full coverage with nano coating! ... So, why should we use an expensive coating-process with a dissatisfied result? And it´s not necessary anymore!

[gmat]

(made such by also triebwerks as THE LC fans (i wonder if they'll try to release something better in this area aswell?)

That, was actually a good idea that needed further work and improvements. So far only Scythe (by bringing up Nidec fans to the general public) has really made an effort in that direction. I would definitely buy a good lot of 38mm thick "Gentle Typhoon killers" or 140mm version of them (or even better, 140x38mm).
As for the radiators, tube rads have had so far poor cooling capacity per volume, and high water flow restriction. I think the evolutionary step for radiators would be more in the spirit of what is made on air coolers, aka stacked plates, proper shrouding, and good use of airflow dynamics (the current top breed of air coolers have rather engineered stacked plates designs...)

[asura]

I would definitely buy a good lot of 38mm thick "Gentle Typhoon killers" or 140mm version of them (or even better, 140x38mm).

I bugged the guys at Specialtech about 140x38 San Aces and they're getting them (and a few other types) so far they've got 120x38's but the rest are having to come from Japan... Via Sanyo Denki's main European distributor in France.

[gmat]

Oh good, is that distributor selling to general public or are they just doing wholesale ? I'd order a San Ace from them just to see myself what they're about (i'm more about silent cooling...)

[RoadconeTuning]

so are these basically laminova cores?