23' 120hz IPS monitor

[Bodkin]

Sometimes having a computer monitor and a separate HDTV are just too much for your feng shui to handle, and Mitsubishi is here to enhance your qi with its MDT231WG all-in-one monitor. No, not an all-in-one in that it has a PC built in there, but rather it's intended to serve double-duty as a computer monitor and an HDTV. Its 120hz refresh rate and 5.5ms response time mean it'll keep up with Call of Duty, while its 178-degree viewing angle, 5000:1 contrast ratio IPS panel, and integrated 2.1 channel sound system means it should do a decent job at movie playback. And, with a combined power output for all three speakers of 11 watts you won't even have to worry about waking the neighbors. Right now this is looking like it'll only be hitting the Japanese market and, while Mitsu hasn't announced a price yet, we found one for pre-order at ¥118,000 -- just over £871.17 and a small price to pay for finding your perfect spot.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/16/m...aming-goodnes/


About time! Now lets see that price fall
Turns out this uses motion interpolation rather than a true 120Mhz

[safan80]

I'm guessing this thing only does 1920x1080? I did a lot of searches and everybody has the same information. Why would anybody pay $1,400 for this?

[GoldenTiger]

Safan80, 120hz enables you to have 3D Vision, and much much smoother 2d gameplay with lower input lag and fast response times, the problem is up to now none of the panels were IPS, only TN's, in the consumer market, resulting in a poor overall display. A lot of people have been waiting on a 120hz IPS monitor... I hope it hits the US market. I wish it were 1920x1200 (or oh, if only... 2560x1600!!!!!) , and it seems a bit highly priced, but... DROOL!

[guilleguillaume]

Very good news. I'm an owner of a Samsung 2233rz and I wouldn't be able to buy a non 120hz monitor since I got it when released

[SKYMTL]

Safan80, 120hz enables you to have 3D Vision, and much much smoother 2d gameplay with lower input lag and fast response times, the problem is up to now none of the panels were IPS, only TN's, in the consumer market, resulting in a poor overall display. A lot of people have been waiting on a 120hz IPS monitor... I hope it hits the US market. I wish it were 1920x1200 (or oh, if only... 2560x1600!!!!!) , and it seems a bit highly priced, but... DROOL!

Not necessarily. Both NVIDIA's solution and AMD's have hardware checks built into their engines. If a panel isn't certified, it won't work.

In addition, I think this uses motion interpolation rather than a true 120Mhz panel as there is no 3D-certification info for it...yet. We'll see though.

[Manicdan]

step in right direction.
need 240fps
and 2560 x something
and under 1500$, then i will upgrade from my current IPS

[safan80]

Safan80, 120hz enables you to have 3D Vision, and much much smoother 2d gameplay with lower input lag and fast response times, the problem is up to now none of the panels were IPS, only TN's, in the consumer market, resulting in a poor overall display. A lot of people have been waiting on a 120hz IPS monitor... I hope it hits the US market. I wish it were 1920x1200 (or oh, if only... 2560x1600!!!!!) , and it seems a bit highly priced, but... DROOL!

For good 3d you want 240hz. There is nothing on any site suggesting this even does 3d. It only has a contrast ratio of 5000:1, and its only LED backlight and not OLED. http://techngear.com/mitsubishi-vise...or-review.html

There is no reasonable reason for the price to be so high, or for a PC user to even want to use this monitor.

[STEvil]

dont want/need 240, it looks just as bad as interpolated 120.

skymtl - whats the point of hardware checks? All you need is true 120hz (mostly).

[Andrea deluxe]

for all the gamer...

i have tryed all 120hz monitor....

the only 2 best monitor are:

ASUS VG236H
LG W2363D

anyone try it, simply buy it...

PS: my last monitor..... dell u2711.... solded.. LOL

[RaZz!]

for all the gamer...

i have tryed all 120hz monitor....

the only 2 best monitor are:

ASUS VG236H
LG W2363D

anyone try it, simply buy it...

PS: my last monitor..... dell u2711.... solded.. LOL

did you get your hands on the benq xl2410t as well?

[Zaskar]

Forget 3d vision, 120hz means your effective FPS cap gets raised to 120FPS from 60FPS. Should be a significant reduction in noticeable screen tearing too if I'm not mistaken.

[XSAlliN]

120 Hz, IPS - hmm guess this guys were paying attention to people who know what they're talking about...

Interesting.

[GoldenTiger]

Not necessarily. Both NVIDIA's solution and AMD's have hardware checks built into their engines. If a panel isn't certified, it won't work.

In addition, I think this uses motion interpolation rather than a true 120Mhz panel as there is no 3D-certification info for it...yet. We'll see though.

I meant 120hz can enable 3d on a PC . Didn't notice it wasn't certified, though... and that's pretty bad if it's an interpolated panel and not true 120hz .

For good 3d you want 240hz. There is nothing on any site suggesting this even does 3d. It only has a contrast ratio of 5000:1, and its only LED backlight and not OLED. http://techngear.com/mitsubishi-vise...or-review.html

There is no reasonable reason for the price to be so high, or for a PC user to even want to use this monitor.

You don't need 240hz for 3d with active shutters... in fact I've never even heard of a 240hz panel for a PC.

Forget 3d vision, 120hz means your effective FPS cap gets raised to 120FPS from 60FPS. Should be a significant reduction in noticeable screen tearing too if I'm not mistaken.

That too, your effective visible framerate goes way up.

[[XC] Oj101]

Who buys IPS for gaming? At the speed of most games, who's ever going to notice that a colour is a few shades out?

[GoldenTiger]

Who buys IPS for gaming? At the speed of most games, who's ever going to notice that a colour is a few shades out?

Not all games are based around twitch reflexes... RPG's, racing, some slower-paced shooters, 3rd-person action, singleplayer stuff, etc. all has nice eye-candy that benefits from NOT having a huge color shift from top-to-bottom and left-right on the screen, not to mention poor color definition in general.

That's like saying "Why bother buying a nice projector for your home theatre, a junk one with bad color and viewing angles still shows a picture." .

[Manicdan]

Who buys IPS for gaming? At the speed of most games, who's ever going to notice that a colour is a few shades out?

i have a 750$ 27" IPS, and a 130$ LED 22" (not sure if its TN). and honestly they both look great, and i would be very happy with both. BUT once i got to testing its clear the viewing angle on the LED monitor is pretty bad, a little off and the colors go way off. with my IPS its fine for any observers, and when it comes to doing work, a good color pallet means more accurate greys and blacks and thus web browsing wont be an eye sore (and my job requires me to have decent color accuracy)

for gaming TN isnt bad, but most people do alot more than gaming on their PCs

[XSAlliN]

Only those that care about quality and obviously "those that afford it" ... others are satisfied with a cheap TN Monitor, a 10$ Headset and so on...

[Andrea deluxe]

did you get your hands on the benq xl2410t as well?

sure...

i have made a return to the shop...

xl2410t is the worstest 120hz monitor

very slow

[GoldenTiger]

Lame... apparrently it is confirmed this is a 60hz panel with interpolation .

[[XC] Oj101]

I have an IPS panel, and honestly for gaming I don't notice a difference. When doing graphic design, the difference is immense. Maybe it's just me

[Manicdan]

Lame... apparrently it is confirmed this is a 60hz panel with interpolation .

Lame indeed. now its 1500$ price tag makes zero sense

[GoldenTiger]

for all the gamer...

i have tryed all 120hz monitor....

the only 2 best monitor are:

ASUS VG236H
LG W2363D

anyone try it, simply buy it...

PS: my last monitor..... dell u2711.... solded.. LOL

Thanks, that jives with what I've heard. I'm tempted to try one... just don't like the idea of the size downgrade from 30" or TN. May be worth a look anyway though for the 120hz and for singleplayer games, 3d. Amazon has the LG W2363D-PF for $354 shipped right now, would be kinda cool to see and return if it sucks .

[Andrea deluxe]

Thanks, that jives with what I've heard. I'm tempted to try one... just don't like the idea of the size downgrade from 30" or TN. May be worth a look anyway though for the 120hz and for singleplayer games, 3d.

take an asus and simply set color to normal, contrst to 70 and brightness to 80.

install nvidia driver without 3d vision set 120hz and force the max framerate into control panel of the vga.

after this.... is impossible return to play at 60hz...

[safan80]

You don't need 240hz for 3d with active shutters... in fact I've never even heard of a 240hz panel for a PC.

This is not a PC monitor just an HDTV with a DVI port, and there are plenty of HDTVs that can do 240hz. If it did any of the 16:10 resolutions than it would be closer to a PC monitor.

[One_Hertz]

Aww its fake 120hz. Got my hopes up for nothing. Currently using 120hz TN and would never, ever go back to 60hz, but a 120hz IPS would be nice.