Dude if you don't know what you're talking about you better save your breath. Look what some aircoolers can do at a higher vcore, higher ambient and a hotter Bloomfield:
![]()
biker, test very high volt like max v1,4-1,5 or much as you dare![]()
Vishera 8320@ 5ghz | Gigabyte UD3 | 8gb TridentX 2400 c10| Powercolor 6850 | Thermalight Silver Arrow (bench Super KAZE 3k) | Samsung 830 128gbx2 Raid 0| Fractal case
Thanks for the reply, and thanks for the testing results
But can I ask you another favor. What is the measurement from the top fan screw holes to the top of the radiator, and from the botton fan screw hole to the bottom of the radiator? Thanks man
Also, why does everyone say it's 50mm thick if it only measures 48mm?![]()
[CENTER]The post counter is not an intelligence meter!Originally Posted by Massman
MAX11L - "It's like a console...with the suck turned down and the awesome turned up" -tet5uo
Heat Team IRONMODS
No time for testing today
I will try to throw on a 920 @ 1.4v tonight though
You're welcome
The distance from the centre of the rad screw hole to both the top and bottom is the same distance: 22mm. When it is mounted with the extrusions above and below then both sides are exactly the same width as the fans: 120mm.
So you need at least 22mm clearance on two opposite sides of the mount
No idea lol
It is definitely 48mm![]()
X5670 B1 @175x24=4.2GHz @1.24v LLC on
Rampage III Extreme Bios 0003
G.skill Eco @1600 (7-7-7-20 1T) @1.4v
EVGA GTX 580 1.5GB
Auzen X-FI Prelude
Seasonic X-650 PSU
Intel X25-E SLC RAID 0
Samsung F3 1TB
Corsair H70 with dual 1600 rpm fan
Corsair 800D
3008WFP A00
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-3.htmlEven just with a quick glance you can see how thick the radiator of the H70 is. To be precise it is a full 50mm thick, which makes it exactly twice the size as the one on the H50.
To be precise it is a full 50mm thick, which makes it exactly twice the size as the one on the H50
Inaccurate.
Lazy reviewing.
Last edited by Biker; 08-18-2010 at 06:29 AM.
X5670 B1 @175x24=4.2GHz @1.24v LLC on
Rampage III Extreme Bios 0003
G.skill Eco @1600 (7-7-7-20 1T) @1.4v
EVGA GTX 580 1.5GB
Auzen X-FI Prelude
Seasonic X-650 PSU
Intel X25-E SLC RAID 0
Samsung F3 1TB
Corsair H70 with dual 1600 rpm fan
Corsair 800D
3008WFP A00
[CENTER]The post counter is not an intelligence meter!Originally Posted by Massman
MAX11L - "It's like a console...with the suck turned down and the awesome turned up" -tet5uo
Heat Team IRONMODS
ok so Ive received the H70 .
installation instructions are minimal to say at least . And not so clear to me .
1 thing which they fail big at is the pressure on the 4 screws . I don't seem to get this right . If i tighten the 4 screws without overtightening , my cpu will fail during a lot of posts . If i loosen the screws to the point that they feel too loose , the cpu boots fine but my temps rise .
Difficult ..
Does anyone have a trick on how to do this best ?![]()
Last edited by CrimInalA; 08-20-2010 at 01:55 AM.
Main rig 1: Corsair Carbide 400R 4x120mm Papst 4412GL - 1x120mm Noctua NF-12P -!- PC Power&Cooling Silencer MK III 750W Semi-Passive PSU -!- Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H -!- Intel i7 4790K -!- Swiftech H220 pull 2x Papst 4412 F/2GP -!- 4x4gb Crucial Ballistix Tactical 1866Mhz CAS9 1.5V (D9PFJ) -!- 1Tb Samsung 840 EVO SSD -!- AMD RX 480 to come -!- Windows 10 pro x64 -!- Samsung S27A850D 27" + Samsung 2443BW 24" -!- Sennheiser HD590 -!- Logitech G19 -!- Microsoft Sidewinder Mouse -!- Fragpedal -!- Eaton Ellipse MAX 1500 UPS .
If your failing to post and you've not over tightened, then I imagine your motherboard is screwed. It's possible it got damaged while you put the H70 on or during installation/removal of your old cooler. But I don't see how screwing it on not too tight would cause it to fail to post, it's not like it's built in such a way it could short your board out.
go with what you think is normal. and while in windows doing some stress test watch the temp, and very gently tighten the screws a half turn and see if the temps go down any, if not your probably as tight as you need to be.
i dont recommend that with a screwdriver, but if you had thumb screws on a waterblock its pretty safe to do. so be cautious.
k figured it out , it was a motherboard problem .
When i reseat my cpu it detects this and thinks its a new cpu . Then when i reload my profile it will refuse to boot . When i change my ram timings to something moderate it boots , then after that i can do 6-6-5 again .
I thought it where the screws since i did those at the same time i also changed timings and booted .
I think its good now anyway .
Let's check the other stuff now![]()
Main rig 1: Corsair Carbide 400R 4x120mm Papst 4412GL - 1x120mm Noctua NF-12P -!- PC Power&Cooling Silencer MK III 750W Semi-Passive PSU -!- Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H -!- Intel i7 4790K -!- Swiftech H220 pull 2x Papst 4412 F/2GP -!- 4x4gb Crucial Ballistix Tactical 1866Mhz CAS9 1.5V (D9PFJ) -!- 1Tb Samsung 840 EVO SSD -!- AMD RX 480 to come -!- Windows 10 pro x64 -!- Samsung S27A850D 27" + Samsung 2443BW 24" -!- Sennheiser HD590 -!- Logitech G19 -!- Microsoft Sidewinder Mouse -!- Fragpedal -!- Eaton Ellipse MAX 1500 UPS .
Here's a very good review comparing H70 vs H50 and Noctua NH-U12P with both stock fans and 2x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850 rpm. There's both a video and written article. It's swedish so translated it into english with google translate, but the graphs says it all anyway http://translate.google.com/translat...F1&sl=sv&tl=en
H70 looks really great IMO but changing fans is a must. :p For the lazy ones it performs around 4C better vs H50 with same fans or ~5C comparing stock vs stock fans (~3dB louder than Gentle Typhoon 1850rpm tho) and around 3C better than Noctua aircooler.
Last edited by RPGWiZaRD; 08-20-2010 at 07:32 AM.
Intel? Core i5-4670K @ 4.3 GHz | ASRock Extreme6 Z87 | G.Skill Sniper 2x8GB @ DDR4-1866 CL9 | Gigabyte GTX 970 OC Windforce 3x | Super Flower Titanium 1000W | ViewSonic VX2268wm 120Hz LCD | Phanteks PH-TC14PE | Logitech MX-518 | Win 7 x64 Professional | Samsung 850 EVO & 840 Pro SSDs
If all people would share opinions in an objective manner, the world would be a friendlier place
What matters is the relevance to the other product results, no matter what config u use, (in this case i7-870 @ 3.53GHz 1.3v). It might show say 6C lead if we had seen a bloomfield 1.4v test vs H50 for example but still 3C in this test over Noctua aircooler and 4C over H50 is nothing to sneeze at. If it shows 55C or 60C load temps is insignificant in the tests but how it compares to the other products is a useful comparision. :p
Intel? Core i5-4670K @ 4.3 GHz | ASRock Extreme6 Z87 | G.Skill Sniper 2x8GB @ DDR4-1866 CL9 | Gigabyte GTX 970 OC Windforce 3x | Super Flower Titanium 1000W | ViewSonic VX2268wm 120Hz LCD | Phanteks PH-TC14PE | Logitech MX-518 | Win 7 x64 Professional | Samsung 850 EVO & 840 Pro SSDs
If all people would share opinions in an objective manner, the world would be a friendlier place
No he's saying that when you compare cooler against one another all you know is how they perform on a level playing field (same CPU, same clock speeds, same voltages). Like comparing a DX11 card against a DX10 card using DX9 games only, he wants to see it's limits as all the reviews so far have used tame overclocks.
Corsair say the H70 has a much higher heat capacity than the H50, and so any test a H50 can complete isn't pushing a H70. Only a test that a H50 would fail on will show us if Corsair have gotten it right or not. Either you pass the limits of the H50, or you buy a H50 as 5C isn't worth the extra noise or cost.
Simply put, I want to know if a H70 will get me 200mhz higher than a H50 and stable. It's a fair thing to ask, some of these reviews have the bloody stock Intel cooler in them, once upon a time these reviews would only have three of four coolers on the final round of tests as the others all flaked out.
► ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (BIOS 1305)
► 2600K @4.5GHz 1.27v , 1 hour Prime
► Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 2x2GB Crucial 1066MHz CL7 ECC @1600MHz CL9 1.51v
► GTX560 GB OC @910/2400 0.987v
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 400MB RAMDisk
► CM Storm Scout + Corsair HX 1000W
+
► EVGA SR-2 , A50
► 2 x Xeon X5650 @3.86GHz(203x19) 1.20v
► Megahalem + Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 3x2GB Corsair XMS3 1600 CL7 + 3x4GB G.SKILL Trident 1600 CL7 = 18GB @1624 7-8-7-20 1.65v
► XFX GTX 295 @650/1200/1402
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 2GB RAMDisk
► SilverStone Fortress FT01 + Corsair AX 1200W
exactly!!!
if you can do the same overclock on a cheaper heatsink where its stable at 75C anyway, then theres no point in getting 65C temps with 2x the noise for the same exact end result.
however it would be cool for someone to show what noise level reductions you can have with the H70, for the maximum OC obtainable on the H50
Yous should shave off every degree that you can, specially when the price is so close. No point in saving a few slants and get 5'C more. You can get a good deal extra OC with 5'C.
When it comes to noise, you don't run fans at 100% all the time. Most MBs can auto-regulate the fan speed and the noise shouldn't be a problem for 24/7.
Last edited by Sam_oslo; 08-20-2010 at 12:41 PM.
► ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (BIOS 1305)
► 2600K @4.5GHz 1.27v , 1 hour Prime
► Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 2x2GB Crucial 1066MHz CL7 ECC @1600MHz CL9 1.51v
► GTX560 GB OC @910/2400 0.987v
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 400MB RAMDisk
► CM Storm Scout + Corsair HX 1000W
+
► EVGA SR-2 , A50
► 2 x Xeon X5650 @3.86GHz(203x19) 1.20v
► Megahalem + Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 3x2GB Corsair XMS3 1600 CL7 + 3x4GB G.SKILL Trident 1600 CL7 = 18GB @1624 7-8-7-20 1.65v
► XFX GTX 295 @650/1200/1402
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 2GB RAMDisk
► SilverStone Fortress FT01 + Corsair AX 1200W
it wasnt about what you should do, its about how things should be reviewed. i get the max oc i can at the voltage i like. but reviewers dont seem to like to push the OC limits anymore. they just run at a safe setting and compare temps cause its alot easier (but thats all anyone does anymore and theres nothing unique)
and i understand the fan speed thing, but i was referring to noise at max load/temp. no point looking at idle temps noise when almost any aftermarket cooler can practically do that passively
I agree that they should have the focus on the max vCore for 24/7, and present the temp and noise for that, but it should be for both idle and load.
Idle temp/noise is very important too. I have 4 fans on 2 CPUs on my SR-2 + 2x180mm and 2x120mm case fans. I don't hear them at idle, but you can hear them when it takes off under load. So both are important.
► ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (BIOS 1305)
► 2600K @4.5GHz 1.27v , 1 hour Prime
► Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 2x2GB Crucial 1066MHz CL7 ECC @1600MHz CL9 1.51v
► GTX560 GB OC @910/2400 0.987v
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 400MB RAMDisk
► CM Storm Scout + Corsair HX 1000W
+
► EVGA SR-2 , A50
► 2 x Xeon X5650 @3.86GHz(203x19) 1.20v
► Megahalem + Silver Arrow , push/pull
► 3x2GB Corsair XMS3 1600 CL7 + 3x4GB G.SKILL Trident 1600 CL7 = 18GB @1624 7-8-7-20 1.65v
► XFX GTX 295 @650/1200/1402
► Crucial C300 v006 64GB OS-disk + F3 1TB + 2GB RAMDisk
► SilverStone Fortress FT01 + Corsair AX 1200W
Scares me how popular this thread is....![]()
X2 555 @ B55 @ 4050 1.4v, NB @ 2700 1.35v Fuzion V1
Gigabyte 890gpa-ud3h v2.1
HD6950 2GB swiftech MCW60 @ 1000mhz, 1.168v 1515mhz memory
Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1866 cas 9 @ 1800 8.9.8.27.41 1T 110ns 1.605v
C300 64GB, 2X Seagate barracuda green LP 2TB, Essence STX, Zalman ZM750-HP
DDC 3.2/petras, PA120.3 ek-res400, Stackers STC-01,
Dell U2412m, G110, G9x, Razer Scarab
Bookmarks