Corsair H70 picture - Released tomorrow? (updated)

[sin0822]

first off my hoses are double lined 1/4inch thick and they don't kink. Ive had that system for over 6 years, still works like a freaking charm, no leaks, nothing, and u can buy chemicals to put in your water cooling system for dollars, i use anti-freeze if i really care to, maybe a few drops with DI water. If someone asked me I would build one, also my unit is exactly the size i want it, I've trusted it with over $10k of my own and $10k of review samples until i stopped, never let me down.

personally id buy a HSF before id buy that.... they sell those at best buy too, more convenient and smaller.

[Manicdan]

funny how someone who does reviews has no respect for a product they didnt even touch

[chew*]

It's also funny how corsair is not trying to tackle the ELITE watercooling market, and just offering a very nice convenient and easy alternative to somewhat rather noisy, bulky and downright dusty aircooling yet all the haters are coming out of the woodwork.

I have yet to see one of them come up with a non biased response to the fact that this can be installed in less than 10 mins and takes up far less space.

It takes way way over 10 mins just to bleed a 1337 water setup. I have 2 myself........great for my bench rigs.......but i have an h50 in my 24/7 beater.

Some people forget the fact that some people just want a PC to work and do so now, not later, not tommorow, not next week, not a month later after extensive modding.

Oh and i can tear my pc apart easy with this installed, no need to drain my loop to swap out some hardware.

[sin0822]

Ive read reviews of the product from websites and people i respect, based on the improvements made i can make speculations. i'm just dropping in my opinion just like you're obligated to yours.

If it were priced at lets say 50-60 dollars id buy it, but anyone spending over 100 on water-cooling should get more bang for their buck, if a 100 dollar water-cooler cant perform as well as a cheaper HSF its just sad.

[Manicdan]

and what HSF beats it?

[sin0822]

for example the noctua nh-d14. anyways im done, you wanna buy it go ahead.

[clayton]

I'm very impressed to see the H70 beat the biggest & baddest heat-sinks in the market! Definitely the ultimate choice for SFF.

[Sentential]

It's also funny how corsair is not trying to tackle the ELITE watercooling market, and just offering a very nice convenient and easy alternative to somewhat rather noisy, bulky and downright dusty aircooling yet all the haters are coming out of the woodwork.

I have yet to see one of them come up with a non biased response to the fact that this can be installed in less than 10 mins and takes up far less space.

It takes way way over 10 mins just to bleed a 1337 water setup. I have 2 myself........great for my bench rigs.......but i have an h50 in my 24/7 beater.

Some people forget the fact that some people just want a PC to work and do so now, not later, not tommorow, not next week, not a month later after extensive modding.

Oh and i can tear my pc apart easy with this installed, no need to drain my loop to swap out some hardware.

Amen to that but once again I'm going to re-iterate a point I made earlier; leaks are a common problem on watercooling but not prebuilts like these. There is no way that you can heatshrink the tubing like you can on these units and therefor most "legit" water cooling is at risk for nuking your whole PC. Once again I submit, anyone who has not had a catastrophic coolant leak to their custom setup has either won the lotto, been bitten by a shark, struck by lightning or is lying through their teeth. Its just not possible and with things are the way they are in terms cost for components I will not risk it again. I am sorry there is no way I'm going back to water again as Gautam put it so many years ago. There is only air and phase, and this is quickly replacing air as the favored method.

I will gladly eat my words when you show me ONE data center that uses "custom" water cooling as for-mentioned by previous posters.

To me a lot of what is going on here is a lot like the current HDD companies missing the boat on the SSD movement. I gotta hand it to Corsair for this, the fact that the H50 is on damn near every best buy store I see is a tantamount to its success, I cant say the same for folks like Xigmatek, Thermalright, Prolimatech and the like. The bottom line is that most of these air cooling vendors ought to see that air-cooling is a dead end because we have hit critical mass for size / effectiveness and I don't think we will ever get that back under control again.

People forget that we went from this:



to this:



to this:



to finally this:



For all the haters out there who proclaim how current aircooled heatsinks are better; sure but at what expense? Where the hell do we go from this? Cudos to Corsair for working with Asetek to bring us the H50 and H70 to bear, it'll be interesting who teams up with CoolIT to bring something similar to the mainstream.

[BeepBeep2]

Amen to that but once again I'm going to re-iterate a point I made earlier; leaks are a common problem on watercooling but not prebuilts like these. There is no way that you can heatshrink the tubing like you can on these units and therefor most "legit" water cooling is at risk for nuking your whole PC.

I am sorry there is no way I'm going back to water again as Gautam put it so many hears ago. There is only air and phase, and this is quickly replacing air as the favored method.

This is a lot like the current HDD companies missing the boat on the SSD movement. I gotta hand it to Corsair for this, the fact that the H50 is on damn near every best buy store I see is a tantamount to its success, I cant say the same for folks like Xigmatek, Thermalright, Prolimatech and the ilk.

The bottom line is that most of these air cooling vendors ought to see that air-cooling is a dead end because we have hit critical mass for size / effectiveness that I don't think we will ever get back to again.

People forget that we went from this:



to this:



to this:



to finally this:



For all the haters out there who proclaim how current aircooled heatsinks are better; sure but at what expense? Where the hell do we go from this?

Cudos to Corsair for working with asetek to bring us the H50 and H70, it'll be interesting who teams up with CoolIT or if they fade into obscurity.

Water cooling has been around. It's not as hard as people think it is. I'm able to swap motherboards on my setup in about 10 minutes and I'm in a case with $300 custom water cooling. Beats an H70 anyday by far. But you can go a lot cheaper than I did as well and still blow air cooling out of the water. (no pun intended)

Now I would like to get on topic and say that the H70 looks awesome. Great for those that don't want to tinker with a water cooling setup. Although, the water in a proper water loop should be fine for up to 5 years...for most people.

[Sentential]

Now I would like to get on topic and say that the H70 looks awesome. Great for those that don't want to tinker with a water cooling setup. Although, the water in a proper water loop should be fine for up to 5 years...for most people.

C'mon you're really gonna say that? So you haven't:

Changed Tubing because of discoloring
Drained / Refilled Loop Coolant
Had a leak causing some kind of equipment damage?
...in 5 years?

I call shinningans

So if someone's not falling for the marketing bull he automatically a hater. That a very isheep type of attitude. And to be brutally honest beside memory and very expensive cases Cosair has yet to achieve an icon status. Rebranding Seasonic psus, and tweaking Aseteks isn't really ground breaking.

Ok so by your account then the rebranding that is done by memory companies that use micron or elpida based RAM as well as mfgrs like Asus and Giga-byte who make motherboards using reference specs provided by the manufacturer is in the same lot; ie not innovative? You really want to make that argument?

Listen I'm not here to aspouse the way people think one way or another all I am saying is look at things objectively. Atleast these folks are trying to push the market norm further and bring the cost of these units down.

Hell I remember when most of these pre-built units couldn't keep a Pressler Pent 4 below 80c and that was 4 years ago for almost $100, now we're talking almost on par with air cooled heatsinks in terms of price and slighltly better in terms of results or at the very least better compatibility.

People forget that top-down heatsinks were popular for a reason, what do you think your VRMs are doing with this tower heatsink overtop of them choking off airflow. Atleast this thing has a better profile to let you put fans near the VRMs.

[sin0822]

C'mon you're really gonna say that? So you haven't:

Changed Tubing because of discoloring
Drained / Refilled Loop Coolant
Had a leak causing some kind of equipment damage?
...in 5 years?

I call shinningans



Ok so by your account then the rebranding that is done by memory companies that use micron or elpida based RAM as well as mfgrs like Asus and Giga-byte who make motherboards using reference specs provided by the manufacturer is in the same lot; ie not innovative? You really want to make that argument?

Listen I'm not here to aspouse the way people think one way or another all I am saying is look at things objectively. Atleast these folks are trying to push the market norm further and bring the cost of these units down.

Hell I remember when most of these pre-built units couldn't keep a Pressler Pent 4 below 80c and that was 4 years ago for almost $100, now we're talking almost on par with air cooled heatsinks in terms of price and slighltly better in terms of results or at the very least better compatibility.

People forget that top-down heatsinks were popular for a reason, what do you think your VRMs are doing with this tower heatsink overtop of them choking off airflow. Atleast this thing has a better profile to let you put fans near the VRMs.

I havent had a mishap in 6 years, changed water maybe a few times. Also the workmanship of mass produced already assembled water cooling can be done better, for the same price. RIght now the price for the technology is tooooo high for water cooling. But Corsair did make it simple and easy ill give you guys that.

[hutkikz]

Amen to that but once again I'm going to re-iterate a point I made earlier; leaks are a common problem on watercooling but not prebuilts like these. There is no way that you can heatshrink the tubing like you can on these units and therefor most "legit" water cooling is at risk for nuking your whole PC.

not true
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...ocation_id=546
I use these at work. they will not leak but you will trash the tubing removing them

[wrangler]

Just want to chime in that I also have never had a leak in about 5 years of custom watercooling over 4 different blocks, radiators, pumps, you name it.

*shrugs*

[halfwaythere]

First of all I'm going to respond to the psu issue: just because two units share the same layout that certainly doesn't mean they use the same components. Don't be fooled into thinking Corsair is a charitable company helping out poor people. They're in the money making business and when you see a product based on a platform cheaper than the original you can bet your hard earned pennies corners were cut. Will you mind that when your rig is idling at under 100W? Of course not. But if you might want to push that psu to its limits you might find the answer for the cheaper price.

Secondly isn't water cooling supposed to be the quieter alternative to air cooling? I'd really love to see what the H50 can do with the H70's fans and I'm willing to bet its going to be damn close. Don't know why but I think a bigger rad with a smaller pump equals a bigger pump with a smaller rad when the same fans are used. Unfortunately there're always fanboys who will swear on their mothers the marketing claims are correct. And these days products sell mainly because a manufacturer says its better and not because it really is.

I do think products like these give a bad name to water cooling just like hdt heatsinks do that for air cooling.

[lkiller123]

came to like 105 or something with tax, but i did a lot of modding, won a few mod contests here and there, and still have everything working to the max. If your going to browse these forums id think you want to get out there and do yourself than to buy something half ass already made for you. idk just my 2 cents.

Better yet, some people even make their own blocks, rads, and even pumps. People who is Xtreme like you is seriously hard to find.

It can't be said that everyone can do something you did, and that is the reason why Corsair had released such product. There are lots of people who needs simple setups like this, and this is the reason why it is being compared with air cooling setups.

[CrimInalA]

I've had custom watercooling in the past . "never" again , too much work and hassle .
When i sold my watercooling for me good aircooling did it for a long time . Now i'm looking at the corsair H70 to get best of both worlds (best in terms of noise , cooling , installation , maintenance) .

[Erklat]

its an idiot proof system thats been very well designed

Very well said

"never" again , too much work and hassle .

In what you call work and hassle many who use real WC find joy

[prava]

Very well said

In what you call work and hassle many who use real WC find joy

For some people, tinkering is part of the hobby. For others, tinkering is the step required to enjoy the hobby.

So, lets not hate whatever is not our type, shall we? I own a DIY watercooling system (nothing Xtreme, an EK Supreme, D5, 240mm rad, EK NB block and some tubing, reservoir and crap) and although I love its performance as well as its acoustics compared to what an air cooling solution can do, I find myself not changing some hardware here and there because of the hassle that the hole operation would cause me.

So, is WC worth it for me? Well, now that is mounted I love it, but I don't think I would follow that route again unless I'd went after full water. You see, its kinda stupid to only cool your cpu and make it less noisy when you have a GTX295 (or any other high-end GPU, you name it) that ruins everything else. So, for me It would be all water or an H50 or H70, because for its size is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally easy to tinker with.

Of course, there are many people (specially here) for whom tinkering with the computer is their main hobby. Thats why they love to spend (In my case it would be time wasted) hundreds of hours in mounting and modding their computers only to end it and start another one... so, lets understand each others view and accept that not everybody uses the computer for the same stuff not needs the same things.

[ChinStrap]

It's also funny how corsair is not trying to tackle the ELITE watercooling market, and just offering a very nice convenient and easy alternative to somewhat rather noisy, bulky and downright dusty aircooling yet all the haters are coming out of the woodwork.

I have yet to see one of them come up with a non biased response to the fact that this can be installed in less than 10 mins and takes up far less space.

It takes way way over 10 mins just to bleed a 1337 water setup. I have 2 myself........great for my bench rigs.......but i have an h50 in my 24/7 beater.

Some people forget the fact that some people just want a PC to work and do so now, not later, not tommorow, not next week, not a month later after extensive modding.

Oh and i can tear my pc apart easy with this installed, no need to drain my loop to swap out some hardware.

word.

[Bodkin]

I have quite simply run out of time to tinker with my system, and just got a h70 as part of my downgrading package, I will miss my proper loop, but the H70 will make life a lot easier i suspect when carting my system about

[halfwaythere]

Don't know why but I have sneaking suspicion folks downgrading from serious watercooling are going to have a nasty surprise more so than those switching from a high end air cooler.

[[XC] gomeler]

Don't know why but I have sneaking suspicion folks downgrading from serious watercooling are going to have a nasty surprise more so than those switching from a high end air cooler.

People are downgrading for simplicity, not performance. If it was for performance it would be an upgrade. If anyone goes from a $300 loop to a H70 they likely know what they are purchasing and how it stacks up.

[Manicdan]

Don't know why but I have sneaking suspicion folks downgrading from serious watercooling are going to have a nasty surprise more so than those switching from a high end air cooler.

how so?
the ability to overclock is based on the ability to remove heat. since DIY WC is able to remove insane amounts of heat, its built for insane voltages.
if someone downgrades from DIY WC to a H70, they shouldnt assume that they can continue to run things at 1.5v+ without having to invest in 7k rpm deltas and ear plugs.

if both systems are about .1-.2v above stock, i bet an H70 and DIY WC will get extremely similar results

factors: size/weight, noise, simplicity, price, temps, overclocking headroom, and warranty
each person should evaluate what they want from that list, and choose accordingly. every cooler has its desired market, and if someone dosnt know what they want, its easy for them to get the wrong thing.

[Bodkin]

Haha, dont worry guys, I now im going to have to scale back :P

[sniper_sung]

I have just received my H70 today. However unfortunately I have no room to install it into my ancient Antec 1200. Got to RMA it for refund. What a shame.