ASUS RAMPAGE II GENE (Retail) : ROG. X58 m-ATX preview

[aln688]

scratch with a little bit with the new BIOS 1307, too, can confirm

If you find 1307 working for you, great, I'm sticking with 0904. Actually it's not that > 0904 BIOS releases are unstable, it's just they require me to use more voltage. Anyway, benching my system takes days and days, I just don't have the time to spare as I need my system working.

[usz]

If you find 1307 working for you, great, I'm sticking with 0904. Actually it's not that > 0904 BIOS releases are unstable, it's just they require me to use more voltage. Anyway, benching my system takes days and days, I just don't have the time to spare as I need my system working.

I've been using bios 1202 since it was released as it was the first one to truly fix cold boot issue that happened with previous bioses, including the 904. I tried 904, 1202, 1307 and all my preliminary testing showed that for every single bios i needed 1.443 vcore for 20 linx passes stability. Maybe it's just my cpu, or other voltage settings, but changing bios had no effect on required vcore.

[RejZoR]

From the looks of it, 1307 fixed my dreaded BSOD problems. I really hope it's not just a coincidence, but so far, after 3 days, no BSOD's anymore. I hope it'll stay this way.

[Philwong]

I've been using bios 1202 since it was released as it was the first one to truly fix cold boot issue that happened with previous bioses, including the 904. I tried 904, 1202, 1307 and all my preliminary testing showed that for every single bios i needed 1.443 vcore for 20 linx passes stability. Maybe it's just my cpu, or other voltage settings, but changing bios had no effect on required vcore.

I'm still experiencing the dreaded cold boot issue after upgrading to 1202.

Phil

[RejZoR]

Are you refering to the inability to boot when overclocked? I think i'm just experiencing this. I can now finally overclock i7 920 to 4GHz again, but the system just won't boot from zero. Then i press reset button and after few seconds, the system boots up normally. It's kinda stupid really...

[Philwong]

The latest bios needs a bit more juice but no cold boot problem so far.

EDIT: Bloody problem is still there!

Phil

[LightSpeed]

I've tried so many things i don't even know where to start and what's causing this. BSOD's are totally random. Sometimes i get them while listening to music in Foobar2k, next time during gaming, some other time on normal system startup, next time during file copy to USB key or just while browsing the net. Temps are all ok, nothing overclocked, tried reinstalling OS, tried different drivers, different PCIe slots etc etc. And when i think i finally managed to do something and system works fine for a day, i get backstabbed by a BSOD another day. I work with computers for like 10 years now, and i mean in a totally geek way but i just can't fix this . Holding fingers crossed with BIOS 1307, because i'm really tired of this crap and just want to use my PC as i did before.

Ive been having the exact same issues for the past few weeks and thought it was the gene, but then did memtest and singled out the problem : one 2gb RAM stick was half dead.

[RejZoR]

I've tested my memory with memory tester in Vista (Windows Memory Diagnostics) and also 2 passes of MEMTEST. All finished with flying colors. But i think i found the problem now. It's looking good but i don't want to be too optimistic as i tend to get backstabbed as soon as i do that. It seems that my HDD was causing BSOD's.
I've checked it with CrystalDiskInfo tool and i got immediate WARNING in my face and light was lid under "re-allocation sector count" number. HDDlife and Active@Disk Monitor were showing all fine but it seems it was not fine. But BSOD's were still going off...
Then i've bought WD Caviar Black 2TB because 750GB Samsung was already getting too small. Installed it and so far, what, 3 days of usage and not a single BSOD. I really hope this is it. Because Samsung is still covered by warranty and i have a new HDD anyway. I just hope the drive was the cause. In fact it now makes sense. I was getting ntfs.sys BSOD's in the beginning which then escalated into irql_not_less_or_equal. And Event Viewer always ended up with "Unexpected shutdown at XX:XX".
The most unsusual problem i've ever encountered in my life working with computers. And it sucks debugging it if you don't have components for testing...

[Leeghoofd]

Just saw the new Gene III today at the Tech conference... board looks pretty fab too... hope it clocks even better...

looks pretty I7 to me

[RejZoR]

With X58 for LGA1366 ? They mostly churn out P55 boards...

[Lu(ky]

Just saw the new Gene III today at the Tech conference... board looks pretty fab too... hope it clocks even better...

looks pretty I7 to me

What was the color scheme of the board? Blue and White? Or Red and Black etc..?

[Philwong]

Just saw the new Gene III today at the Tech conference... board looks pretty fab too... hope it clocks even better...

looks pretty I7 to me

Please share some pics of the product.

Phil

[The Duke]

Please share some pics of the product.

Phil

+1

[carmatic]

hey guys, im trying to control my cpu fan speed... its constantly at 100% , even when q-fan is set to 'silent'

[The Duke]

hey guys, im trying to control my cpu fan speed... its constantly at 100% , even when q-fan is set to 'silent'

what are your temps?

[RejZoR]

I've noticed a similar thing, well a weird one.

If i use Silent Mode and a resistor between fan and mobo, the fan should spin slower than when QFan is set to DISABLED and resistor is also used. But that's just not the case. The fan spins at the same speed.

[Philwong]

hey guys, im trying to control my cpu fan speed... its constantly at 100% , even when q-fan is set to 'silent'

Are you using PWM fan? Speed control for the CPU header is strictly PWM based. The rest of the headers are controlling the fans via voltage.

Phil

[usz]

hey guys, im trying to control my cpu fan speed... its constantly at 100% , even when q-fan is set to 'silent'

Are you using PMW fan? Speed control for the CPU header is strictly PWM based. The rest of the headers are controlling the fans via voltage.

It's like Phil says. The easy solution for the non-PWM fans is to connect CPU fan to CHA1 or CHA2 header, turn on Q-FAN for those connectors and put CPU fan monitoring on ignore. This is how I used to run my board.

[RejZoR]

P5Q Deluxe had option to select whether you want PWM or Voltage mode. On ALL connectors. I highly doubt a ROG class mobo would not have such feature...
I'd assume that mobo could detect if there is a PWM fan and use PWM automatically. If no PWM, then Voltage is prefered by default. That would make sense.

[usz]

P5Q Deluxe had option to select whether you want PWM or Voltage mode. On ALL connectors. I highly doubt a ROG class mobo would not have such feature...
I'd assume that mobo could detect if there is a PWM fan and use PWM automatically. If no PWM, then Voltage is prefered by default. That would make sense.

I used to have same option on P5E64 WS Evolution, but now it is missing from all my R2G, M3G and R3E. Not sure how R3E handles fans, as I only run it on water, but on Maximus 3 Gene I had exactly same issue as on R2G and ended up with using chases Q-FAN and headers.

[Philwong]

It's like Phil says. The easy solution for the non-PWM fans is to connect CPU fan to CHA1 or CHA2 header, turn on Q-FAN for those connectors and put CPU fan monitoring on ignore. This is how I used to run my board.

You meant you need to disable fan monitoring or RPM sensing for Q-Fan to work? Mine is running perfectly with both PWM (CPU)/Voltage (CHA/OPT) control + RPM reading.

To RejZoR: Switchable PWM/Voltage fan control is no longer available on most recent and the latest Asus boards.

Phil

[usz]

You meant you need to disable fan monitoring or RPM sensing for Q-Fan to work? Mine is running perfectly with both PWM (CPU)/Voltage (CHA/OPT) control + RPM reading.

No, I simply meant disable RPM reading, so that the board won't beef about missing CPU fan. The Q-FAN just won't work on CPU fan with voltage control.

[Leeghoofd]

Please share some pics of the product.

Phil

NDA 27th, colour scheme is alike Crosshair Formula IV and REX III

[RejZoR]

No, I simply meant disable RPM reading, so that the board won't beef about missing CPU fan. The Q-FAN just won't work on CPU fan with voltage control.

That sucks considering nearly all fans are non-PWM. Would make sense why i don't see any change with QFan in different states though...

[Philwong]

No, I simply meant disable RPM reading, so that the board won't beef about missing CPU fan. The Q-FAN just won't work on CPU fan with voltage control.

That's probably because your fan is not reporting the RPM accurately due to very low speed.

Phil