What clocks?Originally Posted by Particle
What clocks?
8h Prime95 - for post #212
Think some of the temps reported in the list are for core not for cpu...?
Last edited by nex_73; 05-13-2010 at 07:38 AM.
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Updated.
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Default clocks--2800 MHz. No turbo since that has its own VID.
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
* CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
* CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1010 MPMW
* CPU Frequency: 4366 MHz
* CPU vCore: 1.465V
* CPU Multiplier: 20.5x
* CPU Turbo: Disabled
* CPU NB Speed: 2769 MHz
* HT Ref Speed: 213 MHz
* RAM Speed: DDR3-1704 Mhz
* RAM Timings: 6-6-6-20-32 1T
* RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
* RAM vDIMM: 1.71V
* Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair III
* Chipset/Socket: AM3, 790FX + SB750
* Cooling: Water ( 10celsius)
* Temps: 15C Idle / 34C Load
* Operating System: Windows XP
* 32/64-Bit: 32
* Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
Crippled by crosshair bios 1602 and waiting for update + win 7
-edit updated correct nb speed.
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Updated.
1055 down to 1.100V now. 1.150V looked stable.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
What clockspeed, Particle?
You must have missed it as I did once reply to your question. This is for stock with turbo disabled. Turbo is off because it has its own VID entirely. I'm trying to see how much voltage one of these things can drop while doing stock speed.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Ok cool. I assume you're using y-cruncher to determine your stability? For some reason Prime95 blend finds errors quickly; y-cruncher cannot.
Really? You're having better luck with Prime? I've actually been meaning to test all the various ones on Thuban. I've so far played with y-cruncher, Prime95, and OCCT.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Yeah it finds errors quickly, I don't know if it has to do with round off checking or what. But the blend option finds memory instability quickly.
Failed at 1.100V. Looks like 1.150V is the ticket for my wafer. That's pretty impressive though.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
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Quick OC, just tested with Cinebench R10 and R11.5, will test stability and max OC when I have the time
1.4xx VCore (will check later in bios, I forgot VCore in Windows is bugged)
Stock NBCore
Ok, here's update to my previous entry
- CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
- CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1010MPMW
- CPU Frequency: 4267 MHz
- CPU vCore: 1.44V
- CPU Multiplier: 18.5x
- CPU Turbo: Disabled
- CPU NB Speed: 3229 MHz
- HT Ref Speed: 230 MHz
- RAM Speed: DDR3-1845
- RAM Timings: 6-6-5-17-1T
- RAM Configuration: 2 x 2GB
- RAM vDIMM: 1.69V
- Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
- Chipset/Socket: 890GX + SB850, AM3
- Cooling: Water (EK Supreme HF)
- Temps: 31C Idle / 54C Load
- Operating System: Windows 7
- 32/64-Bit: 64
- Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
I hope 8 hours of Prime Blend is enough.
vCore idles at 1.416V and fluctuating between 1.44 and 1.452V on load and you see what value is set to (1.403125V), lol.
I'm writing 1.44V, since it seems that almost everyone writes the value which vCore is set to, not the load one.
HT is fluctuating, too, but most of the time it's around 230, regardless the fact I've set it to 228MHz.
Actually, after 8 hours of Blend, C'n'Q is disabled again...
And here's a screen with 700% memtest from a previous run, didn't wait it untill 1000% reached. The HT seems to be 1 MHz down on that particular screen, 'cause of the fluctuation.
How the whole system performs in Everest bandwidth test:
Other bios settings
NB Voltage: 1.38V
VDDA Voltage: 2.74375V
HT Voltage: 1.35V
SB Voltage: 1.20V
NB1.8 Voltage: 1.8V
I'm not sure if all of them and their increased values were needed, but that are the settings atm.
I see another 1010MPMW in the table, very good cpu frequency, even if it's on 32bit and chilled water, they seem good
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Here are my settings, stability not tested yest apart from Cinebench 10 and 11.5
- CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE
- CPU Stepping: 1012APAW
- CPU Frequency: 4000 MHz
- CPU vCore: 1.451V
- CPU Multiplier: 16x
- CPU Turbo: Disabled
- CPU NB Speed: 2500 MHz
- HT Ref Speed: 250 MHz
- RAM Speed: DDR3-1667
- RAM Timings: 7-8-7-24-2T
- RAM Configuration: 4 GB (2 x 2 GB)
- RAM vDIMM: 1.51V
- Motherboard: MSI 890GXM G65
- Chipset/Socket: AM3, 890GX + SB850
- Cooling: Water (DTek Fuzion V2)
- Temps: 31C Idle / --C Load
- Operating System: Windows 7
- 32/64-Bit: 64
- Stable/Suicide/Untested: Untested
That's because they stress different parts of the CPU more than others.
prime95 and Linpack (which includes linx and IBT) stress the CPU and execution units the most.
y-cruncher and HyperPi (nearly all the pi-based programs) stress the memory controller and cache more than the execution units.
That's why sometimes prime95 and linpack will fail instantly and y-cruncher won't. And sometimes y-cruncher will fail before prime95 and linpack.
It depends which part of the system (CPU or memory/IO) is more unstable.
As for as temperature goes, linpack seems to run the hottest on Core 2 and K10 if it is tuned correctly. (because it is just THAT well optimized)
But the exact opposite is true on Core i7 when HT is enabled. y-cruncher runs the hottest simply because HT allows it to use both integer and floating-point units at the same time (thus stressing everything).
Main Machine:
AMD FX8350 @ stock --- 16 GB DDR3 @ 1333 MHz --- Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 --- 2.0 TB Seagate
Miscellaneous Workstations for Code-Testing:
Intel Core i7 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- 32 GB DDR3 @ 1866 MHz --- Asus Z87-Plus --- 1.5 TB (boot) --- 4 x 1 TB + 4 x 2 TB (swap)
I bet core damage will get even higher
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You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
Then lemme rephrase:
Of the ones I've used: (namely: prime95, linpack, y-cruncher, and OCCT)
y-cruncher runs hottest on Core i7 when HT is on.
This does sound like a very interesting program. I'll try it later (when my i7 rig finishes its current task - which will take a few more days).
From my experience, pure CPU/execution unit programs don't produce the most heat. That's because the execution units are only a small portion of the processor.
To achieve maximum heat, you need the right balance of computation, memory access, and branching to be able to stress every single portion of the processor simultaneously. (execution units, branch prediction, instruction reorderer, cache, memory controller, etc...)
So far, I have yet to see a single program that can do this. I'll see if core damage can do it.
Main Machine:
AMD FX8350 @ stock --- 16 GB DDR3 @ 1333 MHz --- Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 --- 2.0 TB Seagate
Miscellaneous Workstations for Code-Testing:
Intel Core i7 4770K @ 4.0 GHz --- 32 GB DDR3 @ 1866 MHz --- Asus Z87-Plus --- 1.5 TB (boot) --- 4 x 1 TB + 4 x 2 TB (swap)
Hi,
If I understand correctly you find a stable combination at 1055T 2.8GHz stock and 1.150V Vcore. How much of temperature decrease under full load versus standard core voltage ?
Last edited by zhadoom; 05-14-2010 at 03:10 PM.
FX 8320 4GHz@1.3V
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At 1.15V, full load is about the same as 1.35V's idle. (~23C) That's about -10 or -15 or so degrees.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Thanks for the info.
FX 8320 4GHz@1.3V
Antec 920
Sabertooth 990FX
32GB Kingston 1333
Asus 5770
Dell 2405FPW
2x Seagate 2TB
CWT 750w
Have you tested wattage using a Kill-a-watt or similar device and compared stock voltage power draw vs 1.15V also? That would be something interesting, as it may make this an excellent choice for an all-round HTPC.
Perhaps also with Turbo on and off? Turbo voltage appears to be relative to core voltage, not just a fixed value (despite what the BIOSes/AMD release info on most major review sites state). I could be completely wrong here, but increasing voltage with turbo on seemed to increase turbo voltage when turbo was active also.
Here's mine, just got my ram from rma so had finally the time to test stability. I had ran Prime95 blend at custom to finish each FFT length test at only one minute and finished all test in just under one hour and still going as I'm writing this.
Last time i tested prime with my x6 (3 weeks ago) fried my board running at 4.2GHz at 1.575v, i guess i was feeding too much volts trying to find stability on which the problem might have been my ram.
- CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T BE
- CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1011BPMW
- CPU Frequency: 4050 MHz
- CPU vCore: 1.44V
- CPU Multiplier: 13.5x
- CPU Turbo: 4350 MHz 1.54v
- CPU NB Speed: 2700 MHz
- HT Ref Speed: 300 MHz
- RAM Speed: DDR3-1600
- RAM Timings: 8-8-8-24-1T
- RAM Configuration: 4 x 2GB
- RAM vDIMM: 1.65V
- Motherboard: MSI 790FX-GD70
- Chipset/Socket: 790FX + SB750, AM3
- Cooling: Water (Enzotech Luna Rev.A + TFC Monsta 420/360)
- Temps: 23C Idle / 40C Load
- Operating System: Windows 7
- 32/64-Bit: 64
- Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
From the screenshot, my idle temps shows 33c but actually it's about 23c as i ran hwmonitor after i ran primelame excuse
Last edited by ridney; 05-15-2010 at 05:43 AM.
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Need an update for the 1055T
CPU Model: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
CPU Stepping: CCBBE CB 1015DPMW
CPU Frequency: 4117.8 MHz
CPU vCore: 1.53V
CPU Multiplier: 13.5x CPU Turbo: Disabled
CPU NB Speed: 2440 MHz
CPU NB vCore: auto
HT Ref Speed: 305 MHz
RAM Speed: DDR3-1626 mhz
RAM Timings: 8-8-8-24-2T
RAM Configuration: 2 x 2GB
RAM vDIMM: 1.67V
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair IV
Chipset/Socket: 890fX + SB850, AM3
Cooling: Water, non chilled
Temps: 23C Idle / 42C Load
Operating System: Windows 7
32/64-Bit: 64
Stable/Suicide/Untested: Stable
Last edited by charged3800z24; 05-15-2010 at 07:34 AM.
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AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Updated. No, I haven't tested wall power, but I can do so if you wish. I do have a watt meter. What kind of configuration are you interested in? I'll have to use a discrete GPU as this isn't a GX board, which would probably be what you'd use in an actual HTPC. I can test it with any combination of the following you'd like:
- (2 Max) Radeon HD 5850 OC
- Radeon 4850
- Radeon 3870
- GeForce 8400 GS
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@ridney: I'll need 8+ hours for the stable chart. For now you're on untested.
Last edited by Particle; 05-15-2010 at 10:32 AM.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Maybe time to put in the first post that people should NOT report the core temperatures, it's the CPU temperature that are interesting...
Some posts here where they are at damaging levels +62C at the CPU (cpu temp approx core temps + 13C !)
Don't want people to fry their cpu:s...
Edit: Maybe also ask people to write down full load voltage instead of idle voltage....
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